Feb. 19, 2025
Tracy Christian Shares Sante Grace on The Business Spotlight with Dori DeCarlo
Tracy Christian founded Sante Grace to celebrate the curves and style full-figured women should enjoy!
Tracy Christian is a veteran talent agent with more than twenty-five years in the entertainment industry. She is the President of TCA Mgmt, a boutique talent agency representing trained character actors, producers, and writers. Named as one of the top Black female executives by Forbes, Hollywood Reporter, Essence, Black Enterprise… Tracy has represented a list as varied as producer Mona Scott Young, Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer, Emmy and Golden Globe winners Elizabeth Moss and Jeremy Piven, Emmy nominee Michael Kenneth Williams,Jamie Hector, Grammy Award winner Toni Braxton, and industry veteran Tisha Campbell.
After years of having difficulty finding clothes that accommodated her lifestyle, Tracy started Sante Grace, an upscale plus size clothing line. Tracy functions as both the founder and head designer. The line has been featured in multiple fashion magazines and blogs like Fashion Bomb Daily, Who What Wear, Refinery 29 and Time Magazine.
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Hello, everyone, welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here on
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the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host Story
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Di Carlo, and you know we are here week after week,
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show after show, breaking those myths that entrepreneurs and business women,
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especially those of us building our businesses from home, they
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were just dabbling in between bake sales and getting our
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and we are sharing the wisdom of women in business
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and in life. And I am very excited to be
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bringing our guests into today's show. Tracy Christian is a
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veteran talent agent with more than twenty five years in
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the entertainment industry. She is the president of TCA Management,
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a boutique talent agency representing trained character actors, producers, and writers.
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Named as one of the top Black female executives by Forbes,
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Hollywood Reporter, Essence, Black Enterprise, and More, Tracy has represented
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a list as varied as producer Mona Scott, Young Academy
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Award winner, Octavius Spencer, Emmy and Golden Globe winners, Elizabeth
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Moss and Jeremy Piven, Emmy nominees, Michael Kenneth Williams, Jamie Hector,
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Grammy Award winner Tony Braxton, and industry veteran Tricia Campbell.
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Tracy is by coastal with residents in both Los Angeles
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and in New Jersey, and after years of having difficulty
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finding clothes that accommodated her lifestyle, Tracy started Santa Grapes,
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an upscale plus size clothing line. Tracy functions as both
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the founder and head designer. The line has been featured
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in multiple fashion magazines and blogs like Fashion Bomb Daily,
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Who What Where, Refinery twenty nine and Time Magazine, and
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now Here Onward of Mom Radio. So with all that
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being said, Tracy, welcome to the show.
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Thank you. I'm happy to be here, I am.
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Thrilled to have you, and I have to tell you
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some of the people that you represent are just some
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of my favorite actors. Right now. It's met Elizabeth Moss.
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I mean, having watched her all the way from the
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West Wing. She was just a teenager to where she
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has gone. It's a wonderful thing to see a woman, yeah,
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in control of her career, like that same thing with
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Octavia Spencer. Wow, talk about somebody who's become that household
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name and really representing women that don't take a lot
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of stuff and are strong enough to step out of
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the box. So I would love for you, Tracy, to
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take us on your journey from talent agent to fashion designer.
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Well, it's really simple. I have a beautiful, big, broad
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life and I couldn't find any beautiful, big broad clothing.
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So like even in college, you know, my friends and
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I would go skiing, and I'd have to rent men's
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clothes to go skiing because they just didn't exist in
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women's sizes.
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You know.
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I guess whomever is responsible for making women's ski clothes
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thought the fat girls were staying home eating bomb bonds
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and we weren't out on the slopes too. But it's
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always been a bit of that. And then as I
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became I'm a working professional in the entertainment industry. You
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look at your boss or your boss's boss for an
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example of success. Right, what car does that person drive?
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Where do they live, how do they conduct themselves? How
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do they dress? And for me, I was never going
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to be able to replicate that because the clothes were
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not available ARMANI was in making a suit a woman's
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size twenty or you know Chloe or Stellem, a car.
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It just it didn't exist for me. So what I
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would do is I would go through Vogue and Harper's
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Bizarre and I would pull out these images and then
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go to my seamstress and we'd make the alterations that
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you need to make for something to you know, look
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good on my body. And I replicate this stuff. And
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I knew fabrics. I worked for a converter for a while,
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so I knew fabrics fairly well. And I would pick
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out all of the text that we were to use
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and I would create a collection. So I did that
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for years, you know, making clothes for myself. And it
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was expensive, and you know, you learned a lot of
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production lessons. And it meant that when my suitcase was late,
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you know, with me traveling somewhere or even worse, stolen,
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I was really up a creek because the other girls
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could go downstairs in the hotel and just pick up
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clothes or go to the local mall and buy clothes.
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But I was stuck. There's no such thing as Lane
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Bryant in the South of France. I was not going
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to be walking down, you know, the cosset with my
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client in some dress from I don't even know. But
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it taught me I'm probably not the only one with
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this challenge, right there are options that we don't have
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once you get above a size twelve or a size fourteen.
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So I knew I wanted to start the clothing line,
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but I have a career and I didn't have time
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to give some make patterns or whatever. But when the
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pandemic struck and we were all sitting around wondering what
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the next step was, I literally heard a voice one
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night that said, create your clothing line, and I got
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up at three o'clock in the morning, I bought the
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domain and that's when I started.
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Women start with why I say it all the time
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on this show, we really do. Women see a need
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that's not being filled and we fill it. And I
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love that you did this because again, like you said,
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you shouldn't be reduced to having to buy men's clothing
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because some designer decided that, oh you know women of
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that size aren't going to be doing this really, so
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it's foo how did that helpen They know exactly. And
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it's amazing because when we were talking about this earlier
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forty something years ago, I can't believe it's literally forty
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two years ago. My gosh, that friends of mine were
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plus size models for Sears and Macy's, the catalogs and stuff.
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Back then, in nineteen eighty two, a plus size model
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was a fourteen to an eighteen, depending on the clothing.
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In today's world, a plus size model is a size eight.
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And we wonder why women have such screwed up images
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of our bodies because of what Hollywood puts out. And
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when there is a woman with curve, where do they go?
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Where do they find fashion?
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There are a lot of challenges. One, human beings are
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getting bigger, period, just they're getting bigger. So what was
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a size six in nineteen sixty is no longer a
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size six, So it's a it's screwed up in that way.
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a size ten is this measurement as opposed to men's
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clothes that are sold by the measurement right. So if
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you're a size sixteen neck, if you know, for a
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men's shirt, that's a particular measurement. It's not about are
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you fat and skinny, you're this, you're that. It's just
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what the measurement is. And what it allows manufacturers to
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do is to manipulate women a bit. So when you
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have something that's European made, it runs smaller. When it's
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American made, it runs larger because the Western body is
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a little larger. So if you're buying Liz Claiborn or
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Donna Karen or whatever, you can buy a whole size small.
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It's all kind of a mind game, and it does
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really that socialization has really screwed up women who try
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to fit. Look, everybody knows what spinx is, everybody knows
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what skims are. We alter our bodies to fit the clothes,
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when really it should be the other way around. The
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clothes should be changing to accommodate us. That's how screwed
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up we are. And I tell people all the time,
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forget about the size and my clothes. Decide how you
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want to look in that outfit, and then just by
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the size that gives you that the number has no relevance.
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But that's so hard, that conditioning is so hard for
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us to undo.
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It really is, and it's an amazing thing because it
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shouldn't matter when you look at all of these companies
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out there now where I have a friend who's a
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size for that that little teeny thing, and had bought something,
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how to return it three times she wound up head
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having to get like a three X for it to
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fit her little tiny body. I'm like, in what world
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is this like the twilights over those little chin characters
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or something.
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That's fast fashion. So there's a real lack of consistency
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in sizes based on the cost of the garment, where
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it's made, how it's made. We really tried to we're
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conscious of that, particularly with plus sizes, and so we
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really work on what I always say, we're here to
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end the crying in the fitting room. Very few women
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who run into the fitting room knowing that everything is
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going to fit or look exactly the way it looks
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on the model or the mannequin. But we give as
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much of an education as we can and describing the garments,
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describing what the fabrics do, and why clothes that are
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a little better made look better on a curvy body. Now,
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you probably we were talking about when you grew up,
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and you grew up at a time where people were
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very conscious of you wanted a good belt, you wanted
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a good bag, a good pair of shoes. Those were
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the foundations of your wardrobe. And people knew if you
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had a good pump, all you had to do is
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take it to the cobbler and you could put a
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new soul on it. You could polish it and it
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was like new. You got a good pair of fair
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gambo flats or you know some other thing. You save
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for those kinds of things, and they'd last forever. They
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were quality made, and that meant something. Never mind the prestige,
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but it was an investment. I'm gonna wear I'm gonna
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buy this basic black pump, buy this designer because I
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know I can wear it for the next thirty years.
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So even if it costs one hundred and fifty dollars,
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amamortizing that over years, not three months. Well, fast fashion
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came in and they kind of threw all of that out,
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and now you'll see women who are twenty five just
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really entering the job market. Between thirty five, they don't
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know about bridge, They don't know about better, they don't
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know about an investment wardrobe. What they do know is
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I went to Bloomingdale's and this blazer was two hundred
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and fifty dollars, and then I looked online at Shean
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and something that looks exactly the same was nineteen dollars.
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So they buy the nineteen dollars, but they're not taking
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into account one is it gonna look like? Is it
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gonna look like the other blazer when I get it? No,
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how's it gonna fit? What's the fabric? Am I gonna
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sweat like a pig in it? And how many times
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am I gonna have to spend this nineteen dollars?
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Think about that, Think about what Tracy just said, because
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sheep is expensive, It really is. So we're going to
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And we're back here on Word of Mom Radio. We
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are talking with Tracy Christian about our clothing line, Santa Grace.
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I love. I'm serious. I love what you were saying
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because people really think, oh well, I got it's for
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such a better price from this place. Like I said before,
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we broke, Chepe is expensive. So it doesn't matter if
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you only spend fifteen dollars on something. If you wear
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it once and have to replace it, it's already torn
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when you're taking it out of the bag, and then
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they don't bother have and you send it back because
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why bother? But it doesn't matter because it's already torn.
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You're not gonna wear it anyway. Either way. They gave
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you your refund of your money, but you've wasted your time
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on something that's gonna look good on you, those signature things.
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mom back in the day. You always wanted to make
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sure you have the little black dress with a cute
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little bolero jacket or this jacket or you know, the
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different things you can throw over it, but you want
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that shell underneath to be able to dress up, dress up,
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dress down. It's like having those pants, oh look, and
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