Rhonda Britten on The Coaching Corner with Dori DeCarlo
Rhonda Britten – Emmy Award-winner, Repeat Oprah guest, and Master Coach – has changed lives in over 600 episodes of reality television, authored four bestsellers including her seminal work "Fearless Living" (translated into 16 languages), and founded the Fearless Living Institute, home of Fearless Living Life Coach Certification Program, considered the Ivy League of Life Coaching Training.
Rhonda was the first Life Coach on television in the world and appeared for three seasons as the head Life Coach on the hit daytime NBC show, "Starting Over." Named its "Most Valuable Player" by The New York Times and heralded as "America's Favorite Life Coach," she brings the neuroscience of fear down to earth giving you a path out of "not being good enough" using the "Wheels" technology she developed that saved her own life.
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0:00 She is sure, she is true, she is strong, she is straw, she is true, is true, she is praise, pray, is she is you. Hello, everyone, Welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here on the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host, Dori Di Carlo. And you know we are here week after week, show after show, breaking those myths that morepreneurs and business women, especially those of us building our businesses from home, that we're just dabbling in between bake sales and getting our nails done. We're not. We are smart, we are savvy, and we are sharing the wisdom of women in business and in life. And I am thrilled to be bringing today's guest onto our show. Ronda Britten, Emmy Award winner, repeat Oprah guest and Master Coach, has changed lives in over six hundred episodes of reality television, authored four bestsellers, including her seminal work Fearless Living, which is translated into sixteen languages, and founded the Fearless Living Institute, home of Fearless Living Life Coach certification program considered the Ivy League of Life coaching training. She was the first coach on television in the world and appeared for three seasons as the head life coach on the hit daytime NBC show Starting Over, Named its most valuable player by the New York Times and haralded as America's favorite life coach.
1:35 Ronda brings the neuroscience of fear down to earth, giving you a path of not being good enough using the wheels technologies she developed that saved her own. Ronda's been read, heard, and watched by millions, coached tens of thousands of clients, trained hundreds of coaches, and now wants to share all she knows with you and is here on word of bomb Rindio. So, yay, Ronda, welcome to the show. That's right, I sound like I sound bomb when you say it, it sounds amazing. I'm like, wow, yeah I did all that. You're right, and I'm so excited to be here.
2:16 You know what, It's really cool sometimes to actually hear what you've done, because sometimes we forget totally surely we've been on and just how badass. Are one hundred percent? I think the one thing, you know, when you're talking about mom entrepreneurs, it's just like, you know, you get so bogged in, You can get so bogged in, you know, thinking of yourself as as a mother, a partner, et cetera. That you do forget that you're badass. I think it's and it's so normal for women to not think about themselves in that way. Right. Oh, God forbid we're selfish. God forbid, we'll get big headed. God forbid. We think we're all that. And it's like, yeah, we are all that. Okay, we're like literally keeping the world together. Okay, without us, the world would collapse. Okay, we're the only ones that can do it.
3:00 Well, you know, let's face it, without us, we wouldn't have a world. Say what you want, and that's exact thing. It really is so true, and women need to stand up for themselves. That's why Word of Mom began to give women a voice so we know we're not out there alone. Because you know what, you can go up on the top of that mountain and sing that song, but when you have other women behind you, what a voice. Yes all have when we work together. So, Ronda, I would love for you to take us on your journey, because what a journey you've been on. Well, I think you're referring to the worst day of my life, which is really the start of what where I got how I got here started back then. You know, I always say that the seeds of our destiny are planted in our worst days, right, It's where the fertilizer comes from. And so my worst day was when I was fourteen years old. I grew up in a little tiny town in Michigan, three hundred and sixty five inches of snow a year, and my parents were gonna divorced.
4:00 My father was coming to take us out for Sunday brunch. It's Father's Day. So my mom's pluffing up for beehive hair, do you and putting on her blue eyeshadow and her rose colored lipstick. My dad walks in the back door, come on, come on, come on, because that's what dads do. My two sisters are fighting it out in our one bathroom. Me and my mom start walking out. It's starting to rain. As we walk outside, my dad, it's starting to sprinkle. My dad says he's got to get his coat from the car. And this coat was a tan Naga hide leisure suit coat. And I know you remember what tan Naga hide leisure suitoats look like, Dori, And they look. Good and they looked hot. So my Dad's in his trunk getting his coat, and I noticed out of the corner of my eye that he has not grabbed a coat. He has grabbed a gun. And he starts yelling at my mother, you made me do this, You made me do this, and he fires, and I starts screaming, Dad, what are you doing?
4:44 Stop dead? What are you doing? And he cocks the gun again, points it at me, and I absolutely believe I'm next, and he blinks an eyeblink and he blinks an eyeblink, and my mother, with her literal last breast, screams out, no, don't. And my father takes that bullet intended for me and shoots my mother a second time, and that second bullet it goes through my mother's abdmen out her back lands in the car horn and for the next twenty minutes all I hear is eh. And then my father costs a gun one more time, puts the gun to his heat in fires. So in a matter of two minutes, I watched my father murder my mother and commit suicide in front of me. And I don't know how you would respond, but this is how I responded. It's my fault because I was physically the only one there that could have stopped it.
5:28 And I didn't grab the gun, and I didn't kick my father's shins, and I didn't jump in front of my mother. And you know, everybody says, well, you're only fourteen, it doesn't matter in the sense of you. In the middle of your soul, You're like, I could have done something, and I did nothing. So that day I like to think of myself split into two dory, the outside me and the inside me. The outside me is fine, I'm a straight a student. I'm fine. I get a full ride to college, I keep up my grades. I'm fine. I'm fine. But inside, well, first of all, when you watch your mother down, you don't do anything. You don't get to be happy. So that's off the table. And so I had so much guilt and so much shame and so much blame that on the outside, like I said, I'm fine, but on the inside I was just dying. So minute I hit college, I found alcohol.
6:15 Oh my gosh, I can drink and I can numb these feelings. I became an alcoholic, got three duys, tried to kill myself three times, and the third suicide attempt. They by the way, when you try to kill yourself. They do. Put you in a psychiatric word. So they put me in a psychiatric word, and they evaluate me. Deem me not crazy, let me go. And I remember getting back to my little studio apartment and saying to myself, Oh my god. So all those years I was, yes, I was drinking, Yes, I was getting DUI in and I was suiciding. But I was also going to therapy, I was going to workshops, I was reasoning, but I was doing every possible inner child work you got it, shaman work, you got it, crystals you got it. You know anything, anki you got it. I did everything.
6:56 And I remember sitting in my apartment realizing, like I have so much knowledge, but my life and how I see myself has not changed. And I remember saying to myself, I got to start over. I just got to start over. And so I said to myself, what do kindergarteners do well? They get a calendar in gold Star. So I literally went down to the drug star, got a calendar gold stars, brought up home, and every day for the next thirty days, I gave myself a gold Star for anything anything I did in a positive, powerful way, anything forward, movement. And I'm talking about drinking and not getting drunk or getting angry and not breaking anything. I'm not talking about evolved. I'm talking about just anything positive. And at the end of thirty days, keeping track of my behaviors, keeping track of my actions, becoming more aware of my actual what I was actually doing, thinking, feeling, I had a calendar filled with gold stars, and that was the thing that made me realize that I could change.
7:51 I didn't know really how quite yet besides the gold stars. But it gave me the hope I needed to keep living, to keep moving forward, and that actually set me on a mission where I eventually discovered fear was at the heart of everything, and here I am with fearless living. So it was a long, hard journey. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and I felt like for most of my life I was crawling through glass. But I also know. That it was needed and necessary for me to be here to do with the work I do today, to be with the women that I'm with so that they know they have a safe place to be whatever they need to be in order to change their lives. Ronda, I don't even know what to say, and These are the times that I so wish I do interview as a person because I just want to hug you really too. I just want to hug you because why wouldn't you have thought it was your fault? Because especially as kids, it's all our faults. Yes, that's right, it's being sick or anything like that. If we had not argued, if we hadn't raised our voice, that's right, you know, all of those things that we put on ours that are just a natural thing to do. Yes, And to look at how you crawl through glass and look at what you've created and now fearless living what a whole other meaning it has in my brain right now, not knowing your backstory, not knowing what you have survived, and
9:25 I am looking at this incredibly beautiful hybrun woman that wow, I mean seriously, to be able to pull yourself, not only yourself up, but then to find ways to pull other people up. Wow. I know your mom is looking down. She must be so friend. Well, you know you are well. Thank you, I thank you, And you know I know that part of my drive because I'm deeply devoted to my work, deeply devoted to you know, helping people live the life they're sole intended, you know. And I've had people say to me like, well, why do. You think that you you're not fear and why do you think you do this? I go, well, you want to psychoanalyze me, I'll tell you exactly why I do it.
10:12 My mother died leaving my father. She was just about to live the life for soule intended and she died. And she died because my father was afraid, had no capacity to move beyond his sphere, and killed her because he had no other way to handle himself. And my mother stayed for far too long because she was afraid. And I am determined to make sure that nobody, if they want support to do it, that they can live the life there are sole intended. So nobody has to. Live a life that is not fully lived because my mother didn't get to live the life for a soul intended. She died when she was thirty nine years old. You know, I was fourteen, and I thought, you know, when I was fourteen year mom's thirty nine, you think she's old, right, And I remember as I was aging and then I turned thirty nine, I remember just thinking, oh my god.
11:01 You know, because when you're thirty nine, you feel like you're twenty still, right, And I mean I feel like I'm twenty all the time, right, But you just are so young and so vital. And I just thought about, oh my gosh, what my mother was feeling and three children, and you know, she lost a baby too, and now she's married to a man she doesn't know how to get out, you know, get out from under and and you know, it took everything for her to leave, took everything for her to leave, and the fact that she died trying to do it is uh, just inspires me to this day. And I also believe if you want to get woo woo and this little woo woo dory, this little woo woo. I like to think of me and my mom and dad up in heaven, right, and I like to think of us as angels, right, and we're like, what are you gonna do next lifetime?
11:53 And my dad's like, well, what do you want to do? And my mom's going, well, what do you want to do? And my dad goes, I know, I know, why don't we. Why don't we help the world, world get more fearless, get free of fear And we're all. Like, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, and he goes, okay, okay, Ronda, which my name wasn't Ronda, it was like Angel something, and he goes, well, why don't you help people solve fear? And I'm like me, oh, why, yes, that would be amazing. I would love to do that. That would be so cool. And then he goes, but something bad's gonna have to happen to you, really bad. And we're like, yeah, bad, and he goes, Okay, I'll be the bad guy this lifetime. I'll be the bad guy and I'll come down, I'll be your dad and you be the mom, and I'll kill you and I'll kill myself in front of you.
12:34 And we're all like, yeah, yeah, that's great, right right, because we're setting the stage for my unfoldment. I just forgot my part for twenty years, right, But that that twenty years was part of that part of me, you know, crawling through glass, so that I could understand what it was really like to live in the pain that we live with today. Even though we look happy on the outside, even though we are thriving actually in so many ways, but there's those parts of ourselves that we haven't accepted the parts of ourselves that we haven't loved, the parts of ourselves that we're still ashamed of. And that is my work to do, is to support you and seeing that there is no reason to ever beat yourself up, because that is only fear. I don't think that's google. I don't you know what.
13:17 I actually think that is brilliant. It truly is what a brilliant way to you say okay? And you know, because let's face it, we both know that so many people would use that as their reason. Like you said, you became you know, you started drinking all these things and would stay on that amster wheel. That's just self destruction, self loathing, self reproach, all of those things that I'm not good enough and everything else. People go into that. And again that's why I love the name fearless living, because. This is it.
13:57 And every time I hear somebody say, oh, you only live once, it's like, no, you only die once, but you remember, right, you live every day. And that's why letting something, being afraid of doing something, you know, I want to talk about fearless living the whole mission behind that name, because it just in and of itself just tells you, you know, fearless living, and so many people are afraid to live fearlessly. So let's talk about that. Well, I you know, I love I love fearless living, and God gave me that. God was like, it's called fearless living. I'm like, okay, and you know I love that.
14:38 Buddha use the word fearless and I love that. I'm trying to remember the woman's name. No, I'm forgetting it, you know, dying to be me who had the near death experience, who died on the table and she went to she went to the other side, and she came back, and all that spirits told her Jesus, I think she said. It was Jesus who. Came to her said go and be fearless, is what he said. When I read her book, I was like, yes, go be fearless. And that gives me. That just gives me. Whenever that happens, I just feel a little like. Yeah, I'm yeah, that's right. We got to be fearless because of course the number one phrase in the Bibles do not be afraid. But they don't tell you how not to be afraid. Right, that's the whole point. It's like everything I read, it was like it told me, like, love yourself, but it's like, how do you love yourself? If you don't know how to love yourself? Don't tell me to love myself, right, don't unless you're going to tell me exactly what to do.
15:34 And I'm talking little, tiny steps because I would read those books and it would say, be, you know, be gentle with yourself and love yourself, and it's like, how do you do that if you've never done that, You can't. I can't find the answer in this book, and so I set apart. I think. I think what makes my work work is that I'm so practical because I was so frustrated in reading those books and taking those classes and going to therapy, like the puzz didn't make sense to me, Like there were missing pieces and nobody could explain the missing pieces. And I would be just like, what's there's something gone, There's something not happening here, There's something missing. And when God handed me fear, because it was God that gave it to me, ultimately it was like, that's it. That is the missing piece. Because once you understand how fear works, then everything else, your entire perception of the world shifts.
16:24 Like the literal perception of the world. You know, you don't you know, the bitterness, the resentment, the anger, the frustration, the hate, all of that stuff. You just see it all through the lens of fear. So it's not personal anymore. It's not about what they think. It's about it's literally that they're afraid. And when you can do that, you have so much compassion. You have so much compassion. Doesn't mean you have to be friends with them, doesn't mean you have to you know, have lunch with them, but you don't have that resentment, that bitterness, that anger that's. Eating you apart, you know. So I have parents always ask me, well, Ronda, I want to make sure I create it called the wheel of fear and will of freedom. And I have people come to your workshops or read the book Fearless Living and say, well, I don't want my kids to have any fear, and I go. The greatest way that you can support your children is by you understanding your fear so that you model to them what to do when you are afraid, because right now you're acting out when you're afraid, and so you're teaching them that fear is uncontrollable.
17:26 You're teaching them that fear has the better of you. Once you understand how it works, then you can model that for your children, and that in that understanding, they are going to understand how to work through their fear. So as a parent, as a mom, as a father, as a partner, as a spouse, etc. The greatest gift that you can do is to figure out your own wheel of fear, to figure out that core trigger, to find out that thing that's really driving you, because I promise you what you think it is isn't it at all. And then that way you can actually know how to work with yourself so that you can shift and change in a way that supports you. Instead of doing it from a place of fear, I better not, I shouldn't. Instead, it's from what is moving me, what is inspiring me?
18:12 What is being pulled, what's pulling me, what's nudge me? What is what is moving me forward? Live the life you're soul intended. On that note, we are going to take a quick break. I really want you to think about what Rhonda Wook just said. Really hear that. We'll be back in just a moment here on Word of Mom Radio. She is brave she is bold, she is you, and we want to tell your story. Are you ready to share your journey with us on Word of Mom Radio? Go to wordommradio dot com and register as a guest. We want to tell your story because when you win, we all win.
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19:51 And we're back here on Word of Mom Radio. We are talking with Ronda Britten about Fearless Living. I have to tell you your message is so wonderful to me, and it is something in my life that I have tried so hard. I have three kids, and my youngest my daughter got a reiki's certifications in India, her yoga certifications in Ecuador, her International massage therapy in Costa Rica, spent four and a half months backpacking across Southeast Asia to then do six months worth of work in Australia. And when she went to backpack her father, I was like, this is your fault. If you or her mother, she'd never be doing this shit. And my daughter was like, thanks, mommy.
20:39 If you weren't my mom, I could never do this. That's right. I love that I gave my kids wings and never let their fears stop them. It's like, you know what, fear, not doing what if are the worst words in the world. As far as I'm concerned in sharing what you do. You talk about making fear your friend. Yes, and I think that that is amazing and I would love to know how you've done that and how you've helped people do that and what it does for your life when you can make fear your friend.
21:22 Well, I'm going to tell you something really radical. And I remember when I was on Steve Harvey, I said this out loud to him, and he just like literally stopped and was like, what. Did you just say? And I said, this is what I told him, and this is what I'm gonna tell you. When you really understand that fear loves you, that it loves you, it just doesn't know how to love you anyway than to keep you safe. Every feeling you have has a job. Fear's job is not to make you happy. Fear's job is not to set you free. That's not fear's job, not the way it loves you. Fear's job, the way it loves you is by keeping you safe. And the challenges is that unless we understand that it's fear and how to work with it, fear only has the information it knows based on your past history, based on all the things stored in your brain. By the way, not only your brain, your DNA, your life experience. I mean, they have now proven that fears are handed down through our DNA. So when people come to me and say, I got to find what's wrong, I gotta find what happened, you may never find out what happened. You may never find it out. Quit looking backwards to find out how to move yourself forward. That is like love it, you know, pray for it, bless it, you know, exactly like I did with my parents, right forgive it, let it go.
22:42 And just what if you really thought to yourself every time that you beat yourself up, it was really fear trying to keep you safe because you're either thinking a thought, you're either contemplating a move, you're starting to feel an energetic shift, and so you got to beat yourself up to put yourself down, to put you back in place. And that's not you doing it to yourself, not your essential nature, not who you really are. You would never do that to yourself. You would never do that to yourself. It's fear going. And I gotta shut Dory down. I gotta shut Sarah down. I gotta shut her down. She's about to do something crazy and I can't guarantee her safety because fear can only replicate what it knows. So it can't go into the future in uncertainty. That's not where it lives. It only lives in what it already knows.
23:32 And so if you're gonna think about opening a new business, or you know, going and making YouTube videos or starting to speak publicly, fear is gonna go. What do you think, come on, come on, you, come on you Now, I'm not saying that we're all one hundred percent fear. There's probably gonna be thirty or fifty or eighty percent of our self that's really excited and alive and has in our sense of freedom, But that fear is gonna come in and try to go you know, Are you sure you think? I don't know? Because because again, fear knows everything you know. Fear is as smart as you are, as educated as you are, as spiritual as you are, as knowledgeable as you are.
24:14 So fear knows everything you know and uses all of it against you to keep you safe, because that's fear's job. So once you understand that fear is not against you, fear is not something to to you know, to be like you know, it's something to go. Oh, it's trying to keep me safe. My true nature, my essential what I call the essential nature on the wheel freedom. Your essential nature is wanting to move forward, wanting to thrive, wanting to feel alive, wanting to make a move, wanting to grow, wanting to shift right, because that's who we are. When we're true, in true, in our nature, we are growth beings but when we're thinking about that, when we're even like hearing somebody else do it or seeing somebody. Else do it, and it just goes. You just have a moment of right.
24:57 You don't even say could I yet, You just go that moment fear goes. Oh boy, oh boy, oh gosh. I got to look through my file. No, we've never done this before, which means I can't guarantee your safety. I gotta get her to shut this down. So once you can see that, then everything changes, literally everything changes. That's amazing. Yeah, I just think back to the story my mom told me when I was a little kid. I was eighteen months old. My dog was sleeping and I jumped on him. He was a huge German shepherd and he turned his head and it clicked the back of my head off twenty nine stitches. Twenty nine stitches is allowed of stitches at eighteen months old, like the whole back of my head.
25:44 It was just wow in. A flat And so back then the doctor came and got us, brought us to his office, stitched my head and he told my mother, well, hopefully she's young enough that she'll get over this, but she's gonna be deathly afraid of animals, don't try to force her. Hopefully, they opened up the car door. I ran out of the car and I jumped on my dog. My mother said to me, thank god, we learned really early that you really were going to be afraid of much. And it's funny because in times in my life where I hear fear, I'm like, okay, come on, let's do it. Yeah. So I didn't even know I was making it, my friend, Yeah, I really didn't you.
26:27 Yeah, Well, I mean I love it because you were raising an environment where your brain because again, our neural pathways were wired for fear. We're wired for this. But you were entrenched in an environment of your mother being such a risk taker that it was not it was not abnormal for you to take risks. You saw your mother every day take risks. You saw her being different than all the other mothers, and that gave you a perception like, oh, I don't have to be like anybody else. Look at my mom. I mean she's not like anybody else, right, So what abuse beautiful, beautiful, beautiful gift she gave you? And also what a beautiful life you decided to be birthed into because you wanted to have like some good times in this life.
27:10 It sounds like, you know, it's funny. I say it all the time that I came from a long line of my grandmother who left my grandfather in the fifties with her two kids, went to Florida, work three jobs, came back to New York and opened a nightclub. I always joked at Shirley Chisholm and you know, Gloria Steinem, they must have been banging shots back with my grandmother. By aunt Jinny, who left her husband two kids, opened to her horse farm. It's just a long line of incredibly strong women who pave the way for all of these other women. My mom and my mom and dad split. A woman couldn't get a credit card. You couldn't that's right, that's right. You couldn't get a car. You know, today's women have no idea what we've gone through to make this happen. And how are moms and stuff? You know they see in marriages because they hain't nowhere else to go, They had no options.
28:07 Well they I think it was women got credit cards in nineteen seventy four. My mother left my father in nineteen seventy five. I mean, let's face it, as a woman even now trying to get a business loan, how many billions of dollars go out in business loans every year? We are a very small percentage, that's right, not even ten percent. That's right. It is a very small percentage that go to women. Yes, it's amazing. And yet here we are. You know what, Here we are and we say it here on our show all the time. When you win, we all win. That's right. That's what it boils down to you. And what if, oh well I can't do that, Sure you can, Yes you can. Those moms that are out there, Oh I've been home for twenty years. I don't know how to do business. What are you kidding me? Conflict resolutions, scheduling time, that's right, that's right for to be a CEO. Right, that's right.
29:01 This is the exercise I give to the women who are thinking about going back to work, and they go, I haven't done anything like you're saying. I go, okay, this is what I want you to do. I want you to add up all the job titles that it takes to be you chauffeur, made cook, you know, organizer. I want every single title that you do on a daily, weekly basis, monthly basis. All the jobs of people that you would have to hire to do everything you do, go look up their salaries. Okay, because right about now, I guarantee you're probably in the four hundred to eight hundred thousand dollars a year range of everything you do, nanny, et cetera.
29:43 I could go on. Right, So when women sit there and go, I've just been a wife, I'm like, like you what you're like? Your husband couldn't even afford you, Okay, if if you had to pay money, you couldn't even afford you, If your partner couldn't even afford you. So it's really interesting when you start putting dollars. I'm not a somebody who's inspired my money, but it's really validating when you actually write down all the job titles and put the go get go look at the salaries and look at the salaries based on where you live and then maybe in New York City. Just look at what it'd be and then that is what that is what somebody would pay you for what you're doing. That's an immediate boost, just a media boost of like, wait a minute, you haven't been doing nothing. You've been doing everything right.
30:27 We could keep going forever and I really would love to have you back. I would really love to read your book and talk about Fearless Living and what this book is all about, because this is so important. But as we're wrapping up this conversation, Ravan, what do you want to leave our listeners with? Then help me they reach out to you. Well, go to Fearlessliving dot org. That's where everything hangs out and all my social medias are round to Britain, so you can find me anywhere with Ronda Britain or Fearless Living. Literally put me on Google round Britain Fearless Live and you'll find me. And fearless Living dot org is my website and I just developed a brand new quiz. It's actually being unveiled this week like it's brand new. It's how to help you find your core fear, the number one fear that you have.
31:16 And so it's Fearlessliving dot org forward slash quiz qui Z Fearlessliving dot org forward slash quiz quiz and go on over there and take my little quiz and it's gonna show you what might be that core trigger, that identity trigger. Because again, like I said. Earlier, what you think you're afraid of is more likely what I call a fear response rather than your core trigger. So let's find out what's really driving everything rather than what you think is driving everything. Because most people like, oh I'm not good enough. No, that's generic. That is not what your core trigger is. You know, oh, I'm fear of a fear of failure, probably not, you know, fear of rejection, most likely not right, there's something else that's really driving the boat.
31:58 So Fearless Living. Dot org forward slash us QUIZI and go take the quiz. I can't wait to take that quiz, and I encourage all of you to do that. All of Bronda's links are going to be live. Connect with her on social media. Go to Fearlessliving dot org. Take the quiz, find out what is going on, and if you leave with anything, man leaves the whole idea of fear being your friend and it is there to protect you at times. That is what an amazing thing to realize in your life. Really, Rhonda, I am so thrilled that I have had this opportunity to share you. I really seriously watch you back because I have someone bunch of books and talk about them because I can't even imagine the wisdom I'm going to glean from it.
32:50 Oh you are so You're so sweet, And just just remember, if you're listening to my voice or watching me right now, just remember there's nothing wrong with you. It's just fear. There's nothing with you, it's just fear. Don't listen. That's right. Ah, seriously, thank you so much, and for all of you tuning in, thanks so much for being here. We're gonna close out with our fabulous theme song from Smith's Sisters and the Sunday Drivers. So till next time, This is Dory di Carlo saying, go out and create a marvelous you. Bye for now. She is sure, she is sure, she is strong, she is strong, she is true, she is true. She is braz Bray, she is boul. She is you. She is you.
33:37 She is you. She she is sure, she is sure, she is strong, she is strong, she is true, she is true, she is brave Bray, she is bol she is you. She is you. She is you, she is you. Sure of herself, Yes, she takes care of his powerful and strong. Yes, she knows who she is has integer edy woman strong and true. You know where by name. See this woman is you. She is sure, she is strong, is strong, she is true, is true, she is brave, she is she, she is you, she is, she is, she is sure, she is strong, is strong, she is true, is true, she is brave, she is, she is, she is you, she is she is adds value and hope has proved to be brave. See it's never too late, never time to behave Reaching for dreams doesn't matter. The age believes in herself, unleashed from her cage. She is sure, she is sure, she is strong, is strong, she is true, is true, she is brave, she is bold, she is you, she is, she is, she is sure, she is, she is strong, she is strong, she is true, is true, she is Pray is pray, she is but she is you.
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