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She is sure, she is sure, she is strong, she
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is true, is true, she is brave, she is she
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is you, is you? Is you? She is sure, she
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is true, she is strong, she is straw, She is true,
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is true, she is brave, is bray, she is she
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is you.
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Hello, everyone, welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here
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on the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host,
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Dory d Carlo, and you know we are here week
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after week, show after show, breaking those myths that morepreneurs
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and business women, especially those of us building our businesses
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from home. You know that we're just dabbling in between
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bake sales and getting our nails done. We're not. We
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are smart, we are savvy, and we are sharing the
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wisdom of women in business and in life. And I'm
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looking forward to bringing today's guest in. You know, I
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love sharing fellow podcasters, but we're bringing her into the
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authors out. Melissa Lorena is an author, career coach, consultant,
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and speaker. She contributes to Forbes Women amassed seven million views.
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She hosts the Mom Founder Imagination Hub podcast, featuring guests
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like Gary Vee and Beth Comstock for mom entrepreneurs with
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a psychology degree from NYU and an MBA from Dartmouth's
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TUP School, and a Transformational Coaching Academy certification. She's training
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as a meditation practitioner based in Austin, Texas with her
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husband and three sons. Melissa's here to share her journey
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and her book, Fertile Imagination, A Guide to Stretching every
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Mom's superpower for maximum Impact. And you can actually grab
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a free chapter of her book at Fertile Ideas dot com.
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But with all that being said, I want to bring
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Melissa in, so welcome to Word of Mom Radio.
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Thank you, Dori, and I love that you had mentioned
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mediation because I feel like all moms are mediators. Secretly,
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we're like always, like always trying to mediate conversations between
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kids and the outside world. So I get why someone
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would want to become a practitioner in that topic. If
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you're a mom, if you're listening, you get it. But
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thank you for this opportunity, Dory. I'm excited.
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Oh, I'm excited to have you. And you know what,
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It's so funny. I listen to moms sometimes who've been
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full time moms. Oh, I've got to go back to work,
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but I don't really have any qualifications, and I just
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know it's like, are you kidding me? You have CEO qualifications.
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You know how to time manage, scheduled budget, mediation, conflict resolution,
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all of these things that we do as moms that
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we don't realize how well it translates into the business world.
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It's amazing. I would love for you to take us
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on your journey and talk about how reawakening your imagination
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it's so important and how you can use it to
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that maximum impact. So share the journey, Melissa.
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Absolutely, Dori, So like, if anybody's going to actually be
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on my journey, just like put on a seatbelt, make
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sure that you know you are safely, safely fixed to
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some sort of solid object, because it was a very bumpy,
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bumpy road. I would say, you know, it really began
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as a little girl myself being raised by a single mom.
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And here's something that I want to say that is
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more of an offering than anything else to you and
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to listeners, which is the following. So, my mom has
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a manic depression and the reason why I say that,
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and it's a mental illness. She was diagnosed this was
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like at least one hundred years ago, so it felt
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maybe I was two years old. So this was in
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the eighties when this topic of mental illness and mental
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health was not really talked about. The Reason why I
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say that and why it's important to this conversation and
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also to my book and who I am is because
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I witnessed in her, like the highs and the lows
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of her thinking.
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So sometimes she would imagine herself to like, you know,
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go back to school and become a doctor and like
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do these like you know, wild things for a single
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parent who was at one point on welfare. Right. So
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I witnessed that, and I noticed how she wasn't able
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to like execute on those highs, right, And let's call
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those almost like droplets of her imagination. These were her
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ideas of the things that she wished for and her
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visions of her life. But I also notice, of course
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the lows, right, So the sadness, the inability to get
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up out of bed, and just inability to like be
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a mom, if I'm being honest about it. And what
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I got out of that witnessing as a person that
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you know, really obviously loves my mom, is that Wow, Okay,
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I myself with the gratitude that I have for my
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mental health. I'm actually able to execute on these like
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wild outlandish ideas from my mind's eye. And so as
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a little girl, I would really, you know, as I
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was going to sleep, I would dream up these visions
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for my life. Right fun fact, I never thought anything
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beyond being forty for some reason, I would just be like,
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forty was the oldest age ever, which right now presents
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a new challenge because I'm going to be forty six.
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So it's like, oh my god, I have no idea
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where I'm going next. But at the time, I was like, Okay,
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I was living in New York and I was imagining
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myself living in London. I was like, oh, I'm going
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to be in London. It's like Sherlock Holmes. It's like London,
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FuG And then I also would you know, imagine myself
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at one point being in an ivy league education, all
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of this as I would put my head down on
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the pillow. Fast forward one hundred or so years, I
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became a mom and so my firstborn and anyone listening
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to this is going to get it, like, how often
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do have time to like fall asleep and sleep? Not much?
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And so that's kind of what got me to that
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point of realizing that when I became a mom, I
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was no longer having those visions, those ideas, those moments
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of like calm where I would start thinking about what
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would excite me, what were my dreams and ideas. So
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what I ended up doing from that point and when
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I made that realization that I wasn't sleeping anymore, which
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is a very easy realization, I was like, Okay, something
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is missing because that idea, that dreaming bigger, that you know,
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inspiration I got from again being the child to my
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mom saying my mom and her you know big dreams
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that really like it would light me up, it would
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excite me. It propelled me forward and as a mom,
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anyone listening like, we need way more than another cup
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of coffee, although I'm always game for another cup of
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coffee and for us, And what I've noticed for myself
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is again like I needed to figure out how to
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reawaken my imagination. And that's why I wrote my book
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for imagination, and I broke it up into three steps
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because my belief is that we need to actually listen
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to the ideas in our head so that they feel seen,
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heard and valued, just like a little kid. Right, It's
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like if you ignore that kid, that kid's gonna then
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really do things to get your attention. But then at
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the same time, they might even well okay, maybe not
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my three children because I have three now, but they
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might just like stop coming by, you know, asking to
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be seen and played with. Right, They're like, oh, Mommy's
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like not gonna play with me, so why bother? And
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So for me, step one was Okay, how do I
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reawaken my imagination because it was important to me because
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it was part of what lit up my spirit. It
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made me feel alive and happy like a Christmas tree.
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I don't know why, but that's just like my thing.
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I like feeling like a Christmas tree. And so I
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was like, all right, let me figure this out for
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myself and write it out in my book for imagination.
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So reawaken your imagination. For me, that was really about
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offering almost like and I just say, quote unquote, offering
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like a safe environment in which your imagination to feel
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like it could actually tap you on the shoulder and
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be like, hey, I have an idea and maybe Melissa
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or listener is actually going to listen to it. So
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reawakening your imagination is about limiting beliefs and making sure
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that you're opening yourself up to feeling empowered, making sure
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that you are getting like actual sleep, because again, for me,
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that was important to imagining these things and all of
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the sort of groundwork necessary to feel like, Okay, if
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your imagination gives you an idea, you'll actually listen to it.
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You'll be self aware enough, courageous enough, you'll believe yourself creative.
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And that's reawakening the imagination. And the second out of
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the three steps is playing with your imagination. And Dori
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and I were just talking about that before we hit record. Right,
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it was like, okay, being that fun grandmother, being that
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fun mom, that fun and you know, and just like
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truly playing, like playing to a point where someone's looking
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at you and saying, Okay, that person forgot that they're
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like forty something and they think they're like seventeen or
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twelve or whatever. Right, it's funny. I was watching a
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Goldie Hawn video the other day, funny enough, and I
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associate her with like playing being so so silly, right,
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giggling and all of that. That is basically taking that
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idea from your imagination. Right, So we reawakened your imagination.
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The imagination now says, Okay, this person is going to
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listen to my idea and then entertaining that idea, trying
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it on for size, you know, playing with it, juggling
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with it, saying like, oh, this is possible in my life.
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You know, maybe I open up a business, or or
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maybe I take my kid and you know, we go
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to this European country and they learn a language and
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practice it there. Playing with the idea, Right, that's the
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second part to getting to that moment where you're really
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using it like a superpower that every mom has. The
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third one is stretching your imagination. So the book is
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in three sections, right, reawaken play, stretching. The stretching part
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really requires that you open up and you tell another
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human being your idea, because that is what it's going
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to take to actually execute the idea to its maximum
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end point. And in this book, as a podcaster myself,
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what I decided to do was to capture some of
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the podcast conversations that I've been having throughout these years
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since twenty seventeen and really just kind of overlay how
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I interpreted what they told me on using their imagination.
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But as a mom to now three little boys. So
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fun fact, I have identical twins too, and so for
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me it's been necessary, Like there's just no way, you know,
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that I could survive motherhood without thinking creatively about everything
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you can imagine and not imagine, from logistics to how
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I'm gonna, you know, keep up with my nursing commitment
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to my three boys at the time, to how I
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was going to keep my business afloat, you know, when
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I wasn't sleeping whatsoever at all. I mean, it's taken
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a heck of an imagination, and that's my that's my
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message for anyone listening. It's like, you actually can do
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something even though you feel like it's impossible. However, you're
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gonna have to have, you know, a little bit of help,
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and it comes from your imagination, which can be quite fertile,
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as the book suggests, because you're a mom and you've
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had to use it absolutely.
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I like that you broke it into the three different
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phases of things, and that third phase of telling people
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about your dreams. I had a guess one time who said,
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you want a dream so big it makes other people laugh,
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And it's so true because and you know, as a podcaster,
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I'm sure you have listened to people talk themselves out
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of their dreams. It's amazing to me how somebody will
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say what they want to do and then explain why
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it's never gonna work.
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Yeah, And the funny part there is that oftentimes we
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do use our imagination, but we pointed in the wrong
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direction of negative thinking, talking ourselves out of it self sabotage.
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So you're imagining a future that is not going to
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go according to plan or worse, you're imagining your kids,
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you know, falling off of like the jungle gym thingamajigs, right,
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You're imagining all these negative things, and so it's about
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changing the direction of the existing you know, capability that
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the human mind has, you know, being able to see
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things that are not yet like out there in reality
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and just kind of you know, pointing it to more
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like positive things. And as a coach, you know, maybe
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that's a little too extreme, So let's just get to
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like point of neutral, you know, start there. It's like,
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what can you actually believe? Because we cannot actually lie
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to ourselves necessarily. You know, I can't say yes, I
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am going to be six feet I am five feet flat.
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in my life, and I'm not going to be a
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basketball player, so that would be a lie and I
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cannot believe it. But what I can believe is, well,
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if there's a hoop that is short, which in my
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kids' elementary school they have three different height sort of hoops,
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then chances are I'll be able to you know, slam
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dunk in that particular hoop because it is my size.
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So you know what I mean? Like, what can I believe?
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And let's just start there and then and little by
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little we practice just like a muscle on imagining, like
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a better outcome next time, an a better one, and
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a better one, so on and so forth.
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Think about what Melissa just said. We are going to