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She is sure, she is true, she is straw is strong,
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she is true, is true, she is Braise Bray, she
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is she is you.
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Hello, everyone, Welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here
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on the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host,
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Dori Di Carlo. And you know we are here week
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after week, show after show, breaking those myths that morepreneurs
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and business women, especially those of us building our businesses
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from home, that we're just dabbling in between bake sales
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and getting our nails done. We're not. We are smart,
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we are savvy, and we are sharing the wisdom of
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women in business and in life. And you know, I
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love bringing fellow podcasters in and I'm looking forward to sharing.
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Today's guest, mary Anne Hickman is an international public speaker
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and personal speaking mentor who specializes in inspiring business owners
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and coaches to monetize their message through appearing on stage.
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Marianne has been featured in over twenty four hundred worldwide
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stages focusing on enriching and cultivating the development of your story,
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message and revenue. Her life's motto is to make good
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people crazy wealthy. Marianne's a single mother who brought her
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family from food stamps to a multiple six figure income.
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She's married to her best friend, Richard Hickman, and together
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they are raising six children and still in the thick
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of it.
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So that's done, right.
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I know right. Welcome to Word of Mom Radio.
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Marianne Dory, thank you for having me. I'm so excited
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for the women that are listening to this episode. I'm
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excited for what you're building. And if there's nothing else
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that you leave at this episode with, I want you
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to know that there are women like us out there
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cheering with you.
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Absolutely.
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You know.
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It's so funny. It's why I began Word of Mom Radio,
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so women like us building our businesses, raising our families.
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I was a single mom as well, and we needed
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to know that we're not alone. Because I don't know
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about you. I personally think women we're our worst enemy
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because so many women fall into that high school mentality
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of oh, I can't help you, what if you steal
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my boyfriend? I like you more than they like me. Well,
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let's face it, guys, Charlie doesn't care if you golf
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with Joe as long as you're giving him your business.
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They're not worried that you're going to like them more,
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and I do. I kind of think that that is
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why women have such a hard time promoting each other.
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And again why I started this show we're in our
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thirteenth season now, to give women a voice, because together
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we are so much stronger. So I would love for
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you to take us on your journey that has led
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you from being a public speaker to now teaching people
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how to do this.
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Well.
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It's interesting. I didn't think public speaking could be a
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career for the longest time. I have to give a
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tip of the hat to my seventh grade teacher, Missus Wilson,
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and gosh, I hope she's still around. I hope she's
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still I hope to reconnect with her one day because
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I owe her so much, and I owe so much
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to my mother, who always believed in me. When Missus
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Wilson and I were in school together, she encouraged me
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to join drama, which I did I loved it. And
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she also enjoy encouraged me to join choir in which
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I did and I loved it. And she always also
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encouraged me to join a speaking competition. And the thought
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of that it was so odd to me because I
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grew up in a house with lots of kids that
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were ten of us, and so I thought speaking competition
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meant argument, and I was like, why would you why
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would you want me.
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To do this?
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And so I did, and she she put me on
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that stage, she put me in front of a podium,
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and I wrote a speech. Now, I come from a
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background of a church who puts three to five year
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olds on stage. So when I've been speaking in front
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of groups of my peers and grown ups ever since
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I was little, little bitty, and my mom was helping
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me write these talks, and then it evolved and I
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feel like, oh my gosh, I feel if I could
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go back to myself at that age, I would say, Marianne,
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pay attention, pay attention to what's happening, Pay attention to
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what you're doing, because not only can this be a career,
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which was one of my primary desires as I became
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a young adult, is how do I create a career,
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how do I provide my family? But it can also
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more importantly change and save lives. I'll never forget the
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event that I was speaking out and I was in
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front of it. There were probably I think about five
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hundred people in the room and in the crowd. I
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saw this young man, he was probably fourteen fifteen, and
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when I was doing the exercise that was supposed to do,
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I had one of the audience members come up as
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a volunteer, and they didn't know what they were volunteering for,
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but I asked them to raise their hand. I come
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up to the front if they were willing to do
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an experiment with me. And this, I always look for
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the people in the audience who raise their hands slowly
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and late because they are willing but scared, and that
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makes the best person. If they raise their hand too fast,
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that's a spotlight person. If they're in it for them
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for the spotlight and for the limelight, not interested in that.
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I'm not gonna also volunteld people who don't raise their hand.
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And I'm sure as heck not gonna pick the person
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who the person next to them raised their hand for them.
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That's unwilling. We don't want to do that. So I
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called on this boy and I had him come up
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and I was doing a demonstration for the audience. This
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is an icebreaker that I do at events to get
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the audience to not be so stiff and siloed in
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their own experience. I want them to break down the
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walls and interact with each other. So I called this
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boy up and I said, I want to demonstrate to
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you this exercise, this game we're about to play, we're
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about to do. And I looked at this boy, and
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I looked at his eyes, and I said, the greatness
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I see in you. And then I proceeded to see
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I've never met him before. I said, told him, the
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greatness I see in you is this. And I just
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went with my gut and I went with my intuition,
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and then I had to go off stage. And then
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I had okay, audience, it's your turn.
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Go.
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Three months later, this mother came up to me and
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I'll never forget this. This mother came up to me
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and she said, Hi, you don't know me, but three
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months ago, you pulled my son out of the audience
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and onto the stage. And what we later found out
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was that he had a very specific note written that night,
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and if you're reading between the lines, you know exactly
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what I'm talking about. He had exit plans from the
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planet and he didn't carry them through. And when she
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introduced me to him again, his light was different, his
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energy was different. He was smiling more. His appearance was different.
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You could tell the self loathing had taken a few
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steps back, and so that moment really solidified it for me.
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It really meant that we never know who we're inspiring,
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we never know who we're blessing, we never know whose
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lives were changing. We do know that hurt people, hurt people,
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and we do know that helped people, help people, healed people,
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healed people, And so it became less of a career
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pursuit and more of a responsibility, like Victor Frankel says,
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or we have a responsibility with liberty. We have a
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responsibility to first raise ourselves up, pull ourselves out of it,
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and then reach down our hand and lift another. And
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I reflect on that day often every time we're in
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a microphone setting like this, every time in a microphone
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setting in front of other people, and every time I'm
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around my own kids, I think about that, and I
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think about what can be said that is kind and
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helpful and positive and inspiring that can lift somebody out
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of a dark place. May maybe they were almost at
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the point of no return, and we can change that
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by the words we say.
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I so agree with you. You know, my brother tease me.
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My little brother Frank says, you know, your day is
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never complete if you don't take a picture of a stranger.
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And I am that person. I will always see somebody.
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It's like, would you like me to take a picture
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of all of you? Or I'll be walking and somebody
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will say, hey, would you take a picture of us?
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I'll see somebody, and especially an older person dressed, and
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I will absolutely compliment them. And my brother, what is
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your problem saying, hey, you know what it is to
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get up and get dressed and put on your makeup.
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You're a guy.
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You throw on a T shirt, a Parry jeans and
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a baseball cap and you're out the door. And somebody,
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especially that age who has taking the time to do
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her makeup and her hair and her nails, why not
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tell her how good she looks?
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You know?
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Why not compliment somebody? You don't know what their day is,
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and you don't know if that compliment that one person
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taking notice. Just like you said, you just never know.
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And it's amazing. It's the oh no, of that really is.
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I saw this quote and it's been living. I gotta
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put it on a T shirt or something. It says,
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be a little kinder than necessary. And that hit me
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like a ton of bricks. It's not necessary to be kind.
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It's an extra step we take, and it it what
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it does. There's a law in physics. I'm a huge nerd,
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So there's a law in physics called the law of entropy,
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which basically means, without work, the state of energy, the
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state of matter, will fall, will degrade, will deteriorate with
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If a tree isn't doing work, it will fall down
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and disassemble. It requires work for the photosynthesis to occur.
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It requires work for the water to be brought up
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to the tree, and that's what sustains life. And without work,
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it will deteriorate. Without work, your marriage will deteriorate without work,
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Your relationship with your children will deteriorate. Without work, your
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business deteriorates, it falls apart. We have to be constantly
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without work. The laundry never gets done. It just that's
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the law the universe. And when we say be a
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little kinder than necessary, that's the effort, that's the energy,
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that's the quote unquote work. It doesn't feel like work.
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That's what we imbue into the stranger or the friend
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or the family member. Next to us to be a
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positive deposit for them. It may put water in their
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cup that was never there, and it may it may
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just make their cup overflow, so that their cup of
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love and happiness is flowing over so much that they'd
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love the next person because they can't hold it back anymore,
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they can't contain it anymore. That's the beauty.
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It's so amazing to me because as parents, it's our
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responsibility to teach our children the different little things and
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actions speak louder than words. They watch so much more
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than they listen. And remember my children's dad, like my
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kids would say, actually said, you know, mom never does
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anything that doesn't make her happy, and wow. Children's dad
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looked at them and goes, well, how can you tell
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she's always happy? And they were like, well, that kind
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of frees the point, you know, and it's true. I
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anything I do, I'm going to go for it. Cleaning
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the house, you know. I used to joke menial mom
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mondays when I you know, when my kids were growing up,
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because on the weekends, that wasn't my day to be
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able to go food shopping and stuff like that. I
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had baseball games, I had practiced, you know, three kids
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to show for all over the place. So and it's
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so funny because now that my kids are grown and gone,
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I'm a meani now menial mom. I translated that into
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word of Mom radio. This is my recording day and
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I will record anywhere between four and sometimes eight episodes
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on a Monday. I just go from morning tonight and
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that's my Mondays, and then the rest of the week
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I parcel out as I do. And it's the joy
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of being older.
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Now.
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I don't have the nine to five have obligation. I
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don't have a family to raise. I'm not in this thick.
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I'm in the joyful part of it now. Yeah, let
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me rearrange things so I can take my grandkids to
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the park.
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Yeah, you know, I'm excited for that. I got to
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tell you, I'm grateful to be where I am and
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I look forward to that.
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Nobody prepares you for how much you love your grandkids.
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But you know, so funny because even in this let's
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talk about the balance illusion, Oh thank you talk about
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the balance in your life. I'm like, trust me, it's
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a juggling act.