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If she is sure, she is true, she is straw
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is straw? She is true? Is true, she is praise, pray,
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is she is you.
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Hello, everyone, welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio Here on
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the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host, Dori
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Di Carlo, and you know we are here show after show,
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week after week, breaking those myths that moentpreneurs and business women,
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especially those of us building our businesses from home, that
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we're just dabbling in between bake sales and getting our
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nails done. We're not. We are smart, we are savvy,
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and we are sharing the wisdom of women in business
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and in life. And I am looking forward to bringing
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today's guest into our mompreneur model and our coaching corner.
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Jerry South is a mom to seven neurodivergent children, rising
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from a wreckage of a marriage marked with pain and addiction.
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When her son attempted to take his own life, coaching
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was the only thing that helped, and it saved him
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and their family. That experience inspired Jerry to shift her
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career and become a teen and parenting coach dedicated to
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helping teens and their parents navigate life's most difficult moments.
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Jerry was also diagnosed with ADHD at forty. After a
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divorce and a whirlwind of careers from airline trainer to
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dance studio owner to talk show host. Her diagnosis finally
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explained the impulsivity hyper focus an RST. Her children, all neurodivergent,
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helped Jerry see the beauty in our brains. Now she's
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a teen and parent coach. She's a speaker and an
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ADHD specialist. She helps people navigate ADHD, autism, anxiety and
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parenting with mindset, strategy and community. And I could keep
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going on and on, but with all that being said,
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I'd rather wear from Jerry into the show. So welcome
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to a word of ONM Radio.
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Oh, thank you so much. I'm really excited to be
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here today.
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I'm really thrilled to have you here because as somebody
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with ADHD, I really there's so much going on in
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what you are doing that I so resonate with. So
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I would love for you to take us on your journey, Jerry,
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and what led you to now finally being that coach
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that you want.
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Yes, thank you for the question, and you hit on
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it a little bit in my bio. So I'll just
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elaborate a little bit more, because I think a big
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part of my story is just that I wanted to
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be a coach. I walked away from being a radio
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talk show host and doing a lot in real estate
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to help other women. But I wasn't looking to help
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teenagers necessarily.
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At the time.
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My oldest son, he really didn't like me at all,
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and he was struggling and I didn't feel like I
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had the tools to help him, and so I was
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working with women.
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I was loving it.
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I felt like my niche was helping women reinvent themselves
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in business. So even as a single mother with six children,
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it was something that I had a lot of success
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with and so that was my passion and it was
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going great.
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I was loving it.
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I didn't need to change what I was doing, except
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for my son was struggling. And while all of this
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is going on, I'm having success in my new career,
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my son is going to therapists and counselors and nothing's
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helping him. He's not being properly diagnosed with anything, just depression,
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and things are getting worse and worse, and I really
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got to the point where I believed I'm probably going
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to lose my son. He's ended up in a behavioral
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health facility. And so the women that I was working with,
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they asked me, will you do a class for teens?
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And I thought, no, No, deans are horrible.
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I don't want to work with them.
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That sounds awful. My son doesn't like me. No, you know.
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Finally they talk me into I did a pilot program.
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It was about a four week program. It was all
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in person at the time, and I had about ten
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to fifteen teens in that class, and it was the
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first thing that helped my son. And that's when I realized, huh, okay,
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this is incredible because he'd you know, your kids don't
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want to take advice from you. And then he's a
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kid that really doesn't want to take advice from me.
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And I'm listening to him coach other friends that he
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has through his bedroom door, the things that he's learned
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from me, and I'm thinking, oh, my goodness, we've spent
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two years and thousands of dollars and nothing's helped, and
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this helps. And so about the same time, my sister
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was recently diagnosed with ADHD. So my younger sister, she
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had a binge eating disorder.
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She had no idea she had ADHD. I had no
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idea any of us had ADHD.
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Didn't know a lot about ADHD at the time, and
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she gets diagnosed with ADHD, and so we all start
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getting diagnosed and that's when everything starts clicking and making sense.
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And so initially when I dove into ADHD, it was
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to help my my own family. ADHD has a very
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high comorbidity rate, and so there's usually going to be
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more than one diagnosis and overlaps with other things. And
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so I sat down in doctor William Dodson's home with
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the camera crew for four hours and asked him every
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question I could think of. And so I initially just
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wanted to really help my family. But I am at
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this time a coach for teens and families, and so
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it just kind of naturally happened as I'm diagnosed as
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well with ADHD, that I started specializing in neurodivergence.
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And I really take it seriously.
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I mean, I'm passionate about constantly going to conferences and
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interviewing specialists so that I have the best information. But
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I have had a lot of success doing what I'm doing,
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because in my opinion, there's not really enough information out
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there for neurodivergent individuals.
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So that's what I do, and I love it.
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And because all seven of my children are neurodivergent, and
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so is my husband, we are just one big neural
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divergent a little chaotic times family.
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Explain to people what neurodivergence is, because it's something that
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when I say that to people and try to explain, well,
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here's neurotypical, here's neurodivergence, I would love for you to
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give people an explanation. Who are hearing this going wait
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a minute, right, well.
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A really simple way to understand it, because I will
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say that there is confusion sometimes if you hear neurodivergent,
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one might make that mean just someone who's on the spectrum.
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And so it is important that we define it because
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you know, we want we want to make sure we
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understand what fits under the umbrella of neurodivergence.
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So we refer to UH.
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I don't want to call it average, but most people
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have a neurotypical brain. And all that means is it's
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not that it's better or worse than.
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A neurodivergent brain.
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It just means that more people have a brain that
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looks a certain way on brain scans, and that means
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the way they process information, the way that they learn,
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the kind of control that they have over impulses, just
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the way that their brain is operating. Their neurological system
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is neurotypical because it looks like what most people are experiencing. Now,
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neurodivergent is anyone who is on the spectrum or has ADHD.
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It all falls under neurodivergent brain. And we can see
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the difference between a neurodivergent brain and a neurotypical brain
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as early as infancy on these brain scans. Now, we
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could kind of get into the weeds on like, oh,
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different kinds of ADHD and treatment, but overall, if you're
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a neurodivergent, the way that you process information, the way
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that you think about things, the way that your brain
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learns is different. It's not worse. It's not you know,
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there's not one that's better or worse. I would say
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that neurodivergent individuals have many gifts, but a lot of
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times those gifts aren't really being they're not shining right,
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They're not being seen. When we're in the school system,
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for example, because because a neurotypical brain can get engaged
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just because something is important or there's a reward at
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the end. They can sit still for long periods of
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time even if they're bored, and they can just hear
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lectures and learn that way, right. And a neurodivergent brain
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is going to process information very differently. Something that's important
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that's utterly useless for a neurodivergent brain, something has to
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be activated in their neurological system to be able to
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get engaged, something that's novelty or something that's urgent, right,
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or that they're passionate about, or even is a challenge
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or competition. And so really the reason we want to
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understand is this a neurotypical brain or is this a
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neurodivergent brain, because it's going to change how we help
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that person get engaged and get things done.
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And how we communicate with that person.
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So if somebody doesn't know they're neurodivergent, and they're sitting
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in a school classroom and they're comparing themselves to other
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people who are just getting things done and they're hitting
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dead and they're able to be consistent, they're going to
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start to think that something's wrong with them, when really
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they just need tools for their unique wiring system, and
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they'll find they're just as capable, if not more at times,
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they just have to learn to do things a little
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bit differently.
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How do you help parents navigate this, because it really
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is just finding that pathway that now it's clicked with
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them in that neurodivergent way where it's not the neurotypical
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person that you can just it's not the black and
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white that we are used to. There are so many
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shades that go in there. So what do you do
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with parents as they are trying to navigate this with
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their teams?
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Well, that's a great question because we always say, oh,
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awareness changes so many things, but it really is everything.
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Because if you're looking at your child and you don't
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really understand ADHD or something that will happen pretty commonly
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is will know that their child has ADHD, but there's
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still a lot of confusion over what they can control
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and what they can't control.
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A child who is ADHD, we'll say.
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By the time that they are ten years old, they've
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heard over twenty thousand corrective messages, and they're usually messages
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that sound like, oh, why can't you just sit still?
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Why can't you do this? Your brother can do this?
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What's wrong? How come you can't keep up with your work?
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Why can't you pay attention? And those are just simple
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comments that any parent it's going to say that to
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their child if they don't have awareness to ADHD and
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their child is having behavioral issues, or they appear to
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be lazy and they're not getting their work done. So
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one of those statements on their own isn't necessarily bad
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parenting or anything like that. It's just that it shows
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that that parent doesn't really understand how the ADHD brain operates.
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So when I'm working with a parent, first of all,
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I always let them know, please don't ever beat yourself
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up for things that you don't know. There's no place
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for shame ever. You know, we're always doing the best
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that we can. Any parent who's trying to get their
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child help, we want to commend them, But there's things
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that the child needs to work on, and there's things
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that the parent needs to understand, and so when they
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really understand, Okay, just because you throw ice cream at
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a child after they get their homework done, or you,
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I don't know, set aside a reward that you came
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up with or something's really important, your child's not going
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to be able to do that.
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Often is that, let's say math for example, because adhders
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usually aren't very good at math, they'll say, okay, give
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all kinds of throwout rewards for doing their mouth. It
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doesn't work, nothing works, and this child is failing their
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mouth class. And then there's some big exam, let's say
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it's an end of quarter exam, and they know, the
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child knows if they fail this exam, they're going to
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have to take the entire class over Urgency kicks in
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for that ADHD brain that they've never they can't create
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that artificially, and they study and they get a BE
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on their exam. Now every adult in their life says, see,
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you can do it. You're just not applying yourself. You're
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just not trying hard enough.
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You can do it.
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the parent.
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Why was I able to study and get a B?
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But I'm failing all of my class work Because they
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don't know how their brain works either. And this is
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why a child will experience such a hit to their
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self esteem or their self confidence because they don't understand themselves,
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they're not able to be consistent, and the people in
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their lives are disappointed in them. So when a parent understands,
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here's how the ADHD brain works, here's how you can
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help them become motivated to get things done. Here's the
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things we can inject because into the situation. Because they're
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not being lazy, they know what they need to do.
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An adhder, their IQ is above average usually, so that's