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She is sure, she is true, she is straw is
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she is true, is true, she is praise, pray, is
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she is you.
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Hello, everyone, welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here
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on the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host,
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Dori Di Carlo, and you know we are here week
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after week, show after show, breaking those myths that morepreneurs
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and business women, especially those of us building our businesses
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from home, that we're just dabbling in between bake sales
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and getting our nails done. We're not. We are smart,
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we are savvy, and we are sharing the wisdom of
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women in business and in life. And I'm looking forward
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to bringing today's guest into our Healthy Habits show. Jessica
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Bettancourt is a certified hypnotherapist and ballistic health coach. She
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specializes in supporting people in seeing their habitual approach to
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substance abuse as an outdated habit that no longer serves
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their evolving sense of self, and how to create powerful
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identity shifts so that their use of vice feels no
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longer necessary. Evidentally, what many clients report after applying her
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methods is a greater sense of mental and emotional freedom,
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greater physical ease, and a stronger sense of spiritual connection.
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Jessica's modalities include hypnosis, neurolinguistic programming, somatic release, shamanic journeying, meditation,
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and optional microdosing. She's also the host of the Radical
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Healing podcast and is currently working on a book about
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addiction transformation. And I can continue to go on and on,
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but instead I'd much rather bring her in. So, Jessica,
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welcome to Word of Mom Radio.
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Thank you Mom is the word.
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There you go. So I would love for you to
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take us on your journey that has led you to
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what you are doing as a nephilistic health coach.
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Mm, well the journey. Let me let me tell the
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concise version for today, because moms are busy. I am
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a mom of four, and when I had my second daughter,
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I was still you, like, drinking wine every night when
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I put my baby to bed, not when I was
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breastfeeding per se, but after I put my baby to bed,
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I would go outside and hand roll a cigarette and
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just to like look at the stars and be alone.
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And I had really like this long term habit of
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drinking by myself outside at night and like smoking a
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hand rolled cigarette. Sometimes I would smoke some weed as
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a way too unwind and as a way to have
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my own time. And it had its place for a while,
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but then what I could see was that it had
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bled into all these other areas. Like I was using
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these things for stress relief, I was doing them earlier,
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or if my kids were taking a nap, or I'd
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put on a show and go out on the roof
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and smoke a cigarette or have a glass of wine.
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And so it was easy more into the daytime. And
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then when COVID came, all of that kind of compounded
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and snowballed, and I just felt so anxious and I
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was just like nervous, sweating all the time. I realized
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that I was having like not panic attacks per se,
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but I was afraid of driving at certain times, like
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I would get heart palpitations. And I finally just was clear.
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I had this moment of clarity. I was like, I
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am doing this to myself. I'm doing this to myself
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by toxifying my system repeatedly, and even though I was really,
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you know, I am I consider myself healthy. You know,
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at that time, I was doing yoga all the time
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and had a healthy diet and all of those things.
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But my habits had crept in to really override any
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of the positives that I was doing, and I just
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I couldn't deny it.
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You know.
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It was like, this is it, this is the thing.
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You need to look at this thing. I'm like, no, no,
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no no, but I love the thing. I don't want
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to look at the thing. And I just started referring
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to it as my sweat off because now I'm sweating
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from my tea. I refer to it now. Is that
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I had used those things as my mommy's little helper,
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because then I developed the story would change, right, my
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rationalization of why I was drinking all the time or
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why I was smoking, the rationalization story would change. So
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whereas you know, when I started these habits when I
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was in my twenties, it was to socialize and to
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have fun and to blow off the stress of college
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life on the weekends. And then the habits sayed the stain,
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but the story would change. So what I noticed that
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I was doing, I was just rationalizing whatever I wanted
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to do. And I realized that we can really do
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that with anything that's that's that's not that great for us, right,
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we can call it our little friend and we can
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pretend it's our cozy and give it all sorts of
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cute names and and meaning, but that's really a form
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of dishonesty with ourselves. Right, There's like two things that
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are happening. And I noticed these two things were happening
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that I was aware that this was not good for
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me at this capacity, at this momentum, repetitiously night after night,
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and this other part that was like still really attached
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to it, and I was like, I kind of feel
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like I'm two different people. And I did not like
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that feeling at all. It made me feel really conflicted.
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It made me feel like I had just like a
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dual set of values that were at odds with each other.
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And so simultaneously, I I was training as a holistic
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health coach and I would work with women to overcome
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stress and anxiety. But I never I noticed that I
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would skirt around asking women about their smoking and drinking
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habits or their like their nighttime activities, and we would
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just like talk about what do you do in the daytime,
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what's your diet, like, what's your exercise? Like, Okay, let's
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make sure these things are in check. Are you getting
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into sleeping boxes? But really avoiding this kind of shadow aspect.
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That's really the important part of looking at oneself is
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to embrace and acknowledge what's going on in the shadows.
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And so when I realized that I was doing that,
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I realized also that I didn't have enough tools to
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take people there, nor was I going there myself. And
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that's when I began my training as a hypnotherapist, which
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allowed me to see it in a different way, so
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in a non judgmental way, not judging or blaming myself
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for immediately saying, Okay, well, now I have to take
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this away because it makes me a bad mom or
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I'm not feeling healthy, but really understanding the mechanics behind
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habit tree. I just made that word up. The mechanics
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behind habit tree, if you will, is really where it's at,
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because that's where we can understand ourselves. We can really
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see what it is that we need, what it is
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that we're not getting, where we unfulfilled, and then we're
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using this kind of like quick fix band aid vice
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situation to create a panatia around these things that we're
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not tending to. And so that is the work that
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I began about six this years ago, and I'm just
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even more so in this rabbit hole. Now I've introduced
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other types of techniques. I'm constantly learning new ways to
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help women accept and love themselves, and I come at
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it from that place. Rather than taking something away, we
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work on mending and healing and loving compassionately what lies
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underneath all of that. And then what I find is
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that habits transformed themselves because they become something that's no
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longer necessary, and there's this like flexibility that opens up
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for people to be able to choose, and it feels
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natural to choose something else. It feels more natural to
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go take the dog for a walk instead of opening
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a beer and sitting on the couch at five point thirty.
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And so it's like this really cool dynamic. So I
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work with people and mostly with their subconscious in hypnosis,
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but then I take them through I work with it
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nosays and coaching, because hypnosis helps you heal the past,
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and coaching acknowledges the present and takes you forward. So
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it's a really nice companion toolkit that I offer, and
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that my content is made up. That was more the
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long version, but that's that's what I do, and that's
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where I've been and where I'm at it.
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So how for you have you learned to relax and
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unwine without wine?
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Yes, So it's not it's not a one and done right,
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It's like it's changing the mentality. It's changing the stories
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that we have around the things that we do, and
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considering ourselves sort of like a different person. Right, you
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consider yourself someone who doesn't need those things, then you
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choose differently. So now what I do do is I
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let I've really learned to let things pass because I
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used to be really triggered by the stress of having
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four kids in the house and running my business and
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being married, and the dog's peede on the floor and
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they got to make dinner, like all these things happening
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at the same time. What I do is I've really
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learned to slow down so my nervous system doesn't feel
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out of whack. I slow everything down and I physically
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become present instead of ruminating about all the things that
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need to happen. And at that point, when you can
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really stay with yourself in the present tense, you can
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allow emotions to move through without feeling like they're taking
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you somewhere. So part of what I've taught myself to do,
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and what I teach my clients to do is to
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befriend your feelings, to befriend your emotional states so that
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they're not something to fix or adjust or run away from,
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but instead it can become like an interesting part of
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life that you're missing. There's messaging in your emotions, right,
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They're signaling something. So instead of turning them off, I
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help people become interested in what they're saying. And so
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it's really like a moment to tune in. Now, when
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I'm upset, I can't think about having a drink or
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like eating anything because I wanted to come up and out,
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and it's hard for me to even imagine tapping that
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and pushing it back down, which was the old modality
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of what I'd done for a long time, what many
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people do.
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Yeah, it's interesting that you say that, because my whole life,
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from the time I started having something to drink or
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smoking a joint or whatever, I never did it when
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I was upset, if I was sad, if I was anxious,
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I never ever, oh, I need a glass of wine
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to unwind. I made sure that when I did things,
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it was just because I was out with friends and
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I was always one drink doory. I never enjoyed being drunk.
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I never liked that feeling. But I loved hanging out
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with my friends. I mean, and they'd be drinking and
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popping black beauties and stuff, and I'd have my tea
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in my club soda and I'd be out four am
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at the after hours clubs having a great time. And
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they knew they had somebody who would drop. But there
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are those social circles. How do you work with your
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friends who are used to you drinking and things like that,
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and now you're going out with them and you're not,
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So how do you do that and not feel that
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you're being you're alienating yourself or you're alienating them and
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making them feel like, oh, well, I guess maybe I
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drink too much because I have too, and you're not
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having any How do you work with that so you
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don't so called friends?
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You know, that's a really valid question and definitely a
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lot of people's concern, and not only with friendships but
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in their partnerships. Many of my clients, you know, drink
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with their husbands and they want to not drink every
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night just because he is the way that I navigate
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that is to just have a calm confidence. I don't
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broadcast that I'm not drinking if I'm out with people,
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I don't. I'm not really If people ask, I'm very
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honest about it, but I don't add ties that that's
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what I'm doing. Necessarily, I'll have a drink and I'm
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just I have like a calm confidence about what I'm
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doing because I've made the choice going into social situations
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in this example in particular, that I'm just I'm not
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going to drink tonight. I'm going to enjoy the people
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I'm talking to. I'm going to absorb myself in the environment.
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I'm going to notice what I can notice. I like
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to play the sensory game, like what can you feel?
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What can you smell? What can you see?
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Like?
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How can you use your body as a way to engage?
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That's like exciting and fun because alcohol is a depressant, right,
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it mutes the proximal senses. So when you play the
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game of like, actually, what's enhanced by me not drinking
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right now? And it's just kind of a game you play.
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I play with myself. I'm already interested. I'm interested in
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the world, and I'm interested in being in environments I
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don't make a big deal about it to make a
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short answer I make. I make no bones about it.
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I don't inform people that this is like a righteous
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way to behave or anything like that. And so it
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just becomes more for me. And when it's more about
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just for me and my personal desires and how I
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feel aligned, it's a non issue. If I were coming
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into a situation feeling like I needed to convince people
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of my choice or defend it in some way, then
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that would feel so weird. That would feel that like
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the energy would be so different. So that's just that's
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not the practice that I have. The practice that I
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coach people in is to maintain a calm confidence about
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their own choice.
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Well, speaking of calm, how do you deal with this?
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Is how I call my anxiety. I'm so anxious, but
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so having that glass or two of wine, just as
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how I get myself to remace again, how do you
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work with them with that?
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Jessica, No, that is that's where hypnosis meets the road.
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What you're saying is an example of a rationalizing story,
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and so rationalizing stories they sound like that, they can
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sound like anything that the person wants them to, but
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they the person doesn't typically recognize them as a rationalizing story.
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They hold them as truth, like this is just true.
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But what we do in hypnosis is just we relax
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the death grip of this is true and this is
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the only way it can be into other possibility. And
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we look at this as like, this is a narrative
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that makes sense because of how you've lived. This is
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a story that has come from a certain place in time,
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and it totally makes sense. Is this the story that
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you want to live with forever? And almost always when
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someone is in this kind of therapy or coaching, the
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answer is no, because why else would they be there? No,
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it's not. So then we work on okay, well where
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did this story come from? What is the origin of
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this story? And I help clients see it with regression,
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which is like kind of like a time travel back
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through one's life and their subconscious memories, the memory where
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this originated from will surface and we look at it differently.
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I help clients just look at this differently, like was
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this really a fact or was this something that your
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mind told you was true at this place in time
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in order to give you a feeling of belonging or
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safety or love. Or security something like that, Oh yes,
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oh my god, well do you still feel this way?
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Are you still fifteen?
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No?
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Right, So we get the mind to just see a
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little bit bigger, to like zoom out and not have
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such a stronghold on this story because it's really just
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the story like once a person can get back past
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physical symptoms, which are really pretty minor for the people
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I work with. I don't work with people who are
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deep in alcoholism necessarily because the way that I speak
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and the way that I talk about, like I will
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still go have a beer, it's a little too lax
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for people who are in like a medical emergency type situation,
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one who has the ability to like let go just
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a little bit and like ride out those waves of
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decreasing and minimizing because they're not in physical jeopardy. It
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works very well because it's like a loosening as opposed
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to something just being taken away, and it's the person.
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The client is doing it themselves. They're choosing it. And
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when someone feels like they're choosing something, it's a really
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powerful place for them. They're not being told what to do,
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they're not told this is right or wrong. There's no
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judgment being passed on them. It's like, why I just
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actively now choose to have a tea at this party
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or have a sparkling water or a kombucha or whatever.
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It's like whoa, And people surprise themselves and that's also
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super fun? Is that kind of I remember I had
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hypnosystems for myself as well, and I went into the
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store and I didn't buy wine. And I went out
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and wine was the first thing I always put in
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my cart. I had it, and I was like, that's somatics.
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There's my wine. I get to drink it tonight, and
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like all this stuff that was around that, And when
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I went out of the storm and didn't buy wine,
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I was like, do I go back in now and
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buy it? Like that was so weird. I just walked
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right that's the Whitehile without even really thinking about it.
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So to answer your question, it's just it's like a
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reframing of the story that is being told over and
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over and over there like a thought loop, like a
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really deeply embedded neural connection that just needs a little
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bit of loosening and a different perspective. We can tell
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ourselves anything, right, and we can choose to believe it
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or not.
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I love what you said, and I have to say
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when you said the thing about rationale. One of my
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favorite lines from The Big Chill is Jeff Goldblum saying
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how rationales are more important than sex, and the other
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guy looks at me, he goes, what do you mean?
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He goes, yeah, have you ever gone a week without
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a rationale? And it's really true because we can rationalize
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so many things because it is really important sometimes. So
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what happens when you have that? You know, Oh my god,
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I'm so busy. Now you're asking me to change a habit.
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It's just a habit, and it's too overwhelming to do
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because of everything else going on in my life. How
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do you show people how simple it is actually reprogriate?
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This is just this is another great example of a story.
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It's a story that people buy into that habit changes hard.
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I'm or I had a story that being a mom
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was hard, and I was like, oh, it's so hard
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before I even had kids. It's going to be so hard.
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It's going to be so hard, And I'd mentally prepared
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myself for how hard and messy and awful it was
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going to be. And then for the first few years
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of my momhood, I had this story. It was so hard,
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so therefore I had to drink to make it easier.
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I had to do all these things. I had to
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online shop at night.
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I had to.
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I had to because it was hard, so it was justified.
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But it's just this is these are stories. We have
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to look at them like that, like these are fabrications.
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Some of them are cultural and collective stories, and some
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of them are more personal, less objective stories. And it's
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just not necessarily the way that it has to be.
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It does not have to be hard unless you want
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it to be hard. You think it's hard. But my
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approach is not adding more and not doing more. We're
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letting go. We're letting go of the grip. We're letting
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go of control, We're letting go of having to be
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right and have things a certain way. That's really what
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I coach people to do, was like, just relax a
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little bit. Let's just relax and slow down so we
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can see things differently. Because when we're going and going
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and going, we're running the same patterns. We're running the
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same habitual thoughts, we're running in the same action loops
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over and over and we wonder why our life's not changing.
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We just slow down and disentangle and let go of
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what doesn't fit the picture of where we want to go.
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So it's really a simplification if you look at it
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as like a minimizing or a release or a relief
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as opposed to a task or something else to do
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or put it on my list now at the end
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of my bottomless to do list, how am I ever
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going to get here? We need to stop that that
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frame that's that's not a helpful frame's put it into
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the frame of it's a relief. It's a joy to
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not feel like you have to do something. Most I do,
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I do pattern reforming hypnosis, like specifically with people who
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want to quit smoking, or I've worked with people who
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want to stop cocaine, sugar, things like that that feel
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like I have to have this. It's like constant, it's automatic.
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I have to have it. And that is the feeling
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that people want to get away from more than they
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want to get away from the thing itself, like this
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obsessive I have to have. But what imagine, Just imagine
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this is where we start, right, Just imagine if you
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didn't feel like that, like what would be available to you?
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What would you like to think about, what would you prefer?
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And we start there with like just this opening of
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the imagination of preference of what else is possible? You know,
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if you're not stuck on this hamster wheel, if you
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just stop for a minute, like what else might you see?
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And so it's just like the gradual widening, the slowing down.
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That's really what hypnosis allows a person to do. We
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get we start in the deeply relaxed state. I do
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breath work and somatic recognition with people that they recognize
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parts of their bodies, so it have like people's sense
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with the small of their back or in between your toes,
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and you really familiarize yourself as consciousness within a body.
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So you build that connection more of like I'm like
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I'm being hosted in this body and a lot of
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these things that we're doing are harmful to the body,
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and so it really helps with rewiring this relationship of like,
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my body's a thing that I have to manage or overcome,
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and we get more into relationship with it, so the
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tending of it and the caring for it feels much
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more natural, easy and a pleasure, not another I have
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to do this now, I gotta do this, and jeez,
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it's just that's so awful to live in that mode.
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And I definitely know what that feels like too, So
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both are possible.
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So how do you reframe your story of a treat
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or a reward? You know, I it's so funny. I
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have started in my November is my birthday. I just
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turned sixty five, and this month my treat for myself
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every week has been going to get a manicure. It
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is so funny because I'm looking at the fact that
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you go out and have a glass of wine. It's
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eighteen dollars for a glass of wine. It's cheaper for
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me to get a manicure. And you know what, that
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manicure lasts for me for a week to ten days.
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It's great.
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It's a great feeling.
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Every time I look at my hands, I'm like, oh,
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it looks so pretty. So I reframe that and that
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reward without it being consuming something, because for so many
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people that was their reward at the end of the day,
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you know, having that opening that bottle of wine, making
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that martini, you know all of that. So how do
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you switch to that signal multiple ways.
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One is like a greater self awareness of what alcohol
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is actually doing inside of the body and how it's
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depressing the brain, and how it's affecting every system and
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every nerve and every cell. And then you can say,
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ask yourself, is this a treat? Is this a treat
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to create toxicity and decay? You can talk to yourself, now,
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is that really a treat? Like honestly, you know asking yourself, yes,
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it's a treat. Okay, Well that might not feel so
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right anymore, right because you've already you've begun debunking the
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myth that a lot of this propaganda fed us. It's
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really to make reframe and own what actually constitutes a
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treat for you. Would it be a treat if your
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family left you alone for fifteen minutes and you got
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to take a bubble bath? Would like that really be
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a treat? Like ooh, and really to think of brainstorm
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give yourself different ideas. You could create a vision board
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of what would constitute a treat and insert it into
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the time when you would normally have your mammy a
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little helper. Alcohol treat. Treat is like, treat is not
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a helpful it's just really not like trick or treat,
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especially if you know we're from the US, implies that
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it's something that you're not supposed to have but you
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can have it now, and so that like where that
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comes from is probably really antiquated as well. You know,
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I'm not supposed to have this is really not good
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for me? Is this a treat?
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Like? Is it?
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Don't? I don't. I think we need to reclaim the
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word treat, probably in many ways, and put a new
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spin on it. But there's also the piece of what
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kind of person am I and how do I self identify?
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And if I see myself as this kind of person,
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then what are my treats rewards? And are they in
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alignment with my values? And maybe sometimes it is. You know,
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maybe sometimes you want to order a glass of wine
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in a restaurant and like that's seriously going to be
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considered a treat? Is it really a treat? Though? To
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drink an entire bottle of wine, like as I was
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doing every single day for a year, Like is that
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a treat? And to really get more meta about it,
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like look at it from a greater perspective instead of
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this little tied end not of like this is exactly
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what a treat means for me nothing else. When we
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can let go of that mentality, we can introduce all
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sorts of other things that are so deeply fulfilling and
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feel really good without feeling like we're being strict or
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mean to ourselves because we do need breaks. And also
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that's the there's the question of like are you giving
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yourself enough breaks? Like are you why do you need
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so many treats that are like quick fix treats? Where
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are you inserting in your life proper rest and nourishment?
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And that might also tone down this like dopamine need
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for like a quick fix aka treat is to create
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more longevity habits that so your body does feel like
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it's actually tended to, you don't and your soul in
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your mind and your emotions are tended to in this
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broader way that's more habitual, So the treat like band
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aid situation doesn't feel so necessary.
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What a great way to start wrapping up this conversation
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as we're closing, Yeah, what do you want to leave51200:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.200
our listeners with, Jessica And how may they reach out51300:28:05.440 --> 00:28:05.839
to you?51400:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.920
Mm hmm, Well, I would like to leave people with51500:28:11.759 --> 00:28:16.440
the belief you need a new belief and you don't51600:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.839
know where to start. Begin with the belief that beliefs51700:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.400
are made up and that you can change them to51800:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.400
suit you. So just start there. If like, sometimes it's51900:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.640
too big of a leap from I have to drink52000:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.039
wine every day to I go to the gym at52100:28:31.039 --> 00:28:32.920
the end of the day. That sometimes that's too big52200:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.240
and people can't really connect those dots yet. So if52300:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.319
you're still in the place of like, but I have52400:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.960
to do this thing at this certain time, or I52500:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.359
have to have this vice, please allow me to instill52600:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.559
in you that change is possible and that you can52700:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.839
change your mind, and that you can probably find examples52800:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.960
of you having done this throughout your life, leaving partnerships,52900:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.039
deciding that you're no longer to eat a certain way,53000:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.599
being able to have long term weight loss, or save53100:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.440
yourself from some situation that was toxic, Like think about53200:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.039
those times, and it's really no different. You can do it.53300:29:08.359 --> 00:29:13.480
You can do it, you can, and I would people53400:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.720
with I have a free guide. It's called the Mindful53500:29:16.759 --> 00:29:20.680
Drinking Guide. I believe that that's in the links. But53600:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.000
you can find all of these things at the Roots53700:29:23.039 --> 00:29:27.119
of Healthcaching Dot com, which is my recently rebranded website.53800:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.400
And yeah, I also have a podcast called The Radical53900:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.440
Healing with Jessica Vettencourt Calm hang Out.54000:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.599
All of Jessica's links are going to be live on54100:29:37.759 --> 00:29:43.039
wordomomradio dot com. I really encourage you to reach out.54200:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.119
Her podcast link is going to be there. You know,54300:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.119
as a mom and now AMMI, there are those times54400:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.759
that having that glass one at the end of the54500:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.799
day when everybody's in bed or whatever, is a lovely thing.54600:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.880
But when that lovely thing become you just are counting54700:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.440
the minutes and it can happen where you just can't54800:30:05.480 --> 00:30:07.759
wait to be able to open that bottle of wine54900:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.359
and it's no longer that glass of wine. It is55000:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.640
the bottle. This is where there are those places that55100:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.240
you can find. For many people, it doesn't have to55200:30:16.240 --> 00:30:20.240
be all or nothing. For some people it does. When55300:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.079
you have crossed that rubicon where it's no longer you55400:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.519
having the drink, the drink takes you. That's a different thing,55500:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.839
and it's one day at a time you can't think55600:30:29.359 --> 00:30:34.519
of never, but for the majority of us, figuring out55700:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.240
how to just lighten it to where you cannot have55800:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.640
that crutch, but just enjoy that glass of wine at55900:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.839
the end of the day, or that beer or whatever.56000:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.799
There are ways to do it, so really tune into56100:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.640
the Radical Healing Podcast. The link is going to be there.56200:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.200
Know that there are people out there and they're making56300:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.039
it happen. So I love what you're doing, Jessica, and56400:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.880
I really appreciate you coming and taking the time to56500:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.160
share with us here on Lord of Mom Radio today.56600:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.920
Thank you very much, Thank you, it's been my pleasure.56700:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.559
And for all of you tuning in, thanks so much56800:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.839
for being here. We're gonna close out with our fabulous56900:31:09.920 --> 00:31:13.920
theme song from Smith's Sisters and the Sunday Drivers. So57000:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.079
till next time, This is Dory di Carlo saying, go57100:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.880
out and create a marvelous you. Bye for now.57200:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.480
She is sure, she is sure, she is strong, she57300:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.640
is strong, she is true, she is true. She is57400:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.799
braz Bray, she is boul. She is you. Is you,57500:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.359
she is you, she is she is sure.57600:31:36.440 --> 00:31:37.200
She is sure.57700:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.759
She is strong, she is strong, she is true, she57800:31:39.839 --> 00:31:45.079
is true, she is brave Bray, she is bol She57900:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.079
is you. She is you, she is you, she is you.58000:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.119
Sure of herself. Yes, she takes care of his powerful58100:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.400
and strong. Yes, she knows who she is has integer edy, woman,58200:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.599
strong and true. You know her by name, See this58300:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.240
woman and is you? She is sure, she is strong,58400:32:03.319 --> 00:32:08.000
he is strong, she is true, is true, she is brave,58500:32:08.799 --> 00:32:13.720
she is she is you? Is you? She is she58600:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.559
is sure, she is strong, is strong, she is true,58700:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.720
is true, she is brave, she is she, she is you,58800:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.599
she is she is adds value and hope, has proved58900:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.720
to be brave. See it's never too late, never time59000:32:31.799 --> 00:32:36.480
to behave reaching for dreams doesn't matter. The age believes59100:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.920
in herself, unleash from her cage. She is sure, she59200:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.960
is sure, she is strong, is strong, she is true,59300:32:43.240 --> 00:32:49.200
is true, she is brave, she is bold, is you?59400:32:49.480 --> 00:32:50.599
She is she is59500:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.200
Sure, she is She is strong, she is strong, she59600:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.880
is true, is true, she is brave, is brave, she59700:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.079
is She is you,
