Nov. 25, 2025

Chef Deb on The Coaching Corner with Dori DeCarlo

Chef Deb on The Coaching Corner with Dori DeCarlo
Chef Deb on The Coaching Corner with Dori DeCarlo
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Chef Deb on The Coaching Corner with Dori DeCarlo

Chef Deb has created a powerful coaching program and supportive community.

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Chef Deb is a successful culinary business entrepreneur, a #1 Amazon bestselling author, a sought-after speaker and the founder, CEO, and lead coach at Chef Deb Coaching. As a serial culinary business owner for more than 20 years, she has won Chef of the Year (USPCA), Marketer of the Year (USPCA), Website of the Year (USPCA), Best Catering Company (Fort Worth Magazine), participated in major charitable events as a celebrity chef and has been featured in media outlets that include ABC, NBC, CBS, Indulge Magazine, Entrepreneurial Chef, and more.

A licensed physical therapist early in her career, Deb was inspired to switch industries after her son was diagnosed with numerous health problems at age 2 that she found were improved (and triggered) by his diet. Chef Deb trained at the Culinary Institute of America, the Culinary Business Academy and the Culinary School of Fort Worth and started a personal chef business focused on culinary medicine.

Chef Deb is a long-time member of the USPCA (United States Personal Chef Association) and is a member of IACP (International Association of Culinary Professionals). She has now owned 7 culinary businesses, including a catering company, personal chef businesses, restaurants, and food product companies.

Join host Dori DeCarlo on The Coaching Corner and reach out to Chef Deb at ChefDeb.com and SavoryCulinaryServices.com and follow her on LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram and get her books on Amazon.

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Hello, everyone, welcome to today's Word of Mom Radio. Here

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on the Word of Mom Media Network. I'm your host,

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Dory Di Carlo. And you know we are here week

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after week, show after show, breaking those myths that morepreneurs

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and business women, especially those of us building our businesses

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from home, that we're just dabbling in between bake sales

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and getting our nails done. We're not. We are smart,

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we are savvy, and we are sharing the wisdom of

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women in business and in life. And I'm looking forward

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to bringing today's guest into our coaching corner. Serial culinary

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female business entrepreneur, founder, CEO and lead coach at Chef

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Deb Coaching and Saber Culinary dev Oxman is a successful

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culinary business entrepreneur, a number one Amazon bestselling author, a

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Sawtapp speaker, and the founder, CEO and lead coach at

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Chefdeb Coaching. As a serial culinary business owner for more

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than twenty years, Chef Deb has won Chef of the Year,

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Marketer of the Year, Website of the Year, Best Catering Company,

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participated in major charitable events such as Celebrity Chef, and

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has been featured in media outlets that include ABCNBCCBS, Indulge Magazine,

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Entrepreneurial Chef, and more. Chef Deb is also a licensed

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physical therapist and early in her career was inspired to

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switch industries after her son was diagnosed with numerous health

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problems at age two, and she found that they were

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improved and triggered by diet. Chef Deb trained at the

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Culinary Institute of America, the Culinary Business Academy, and the

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Culinary School of Fort World, and started a personal chef

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business focused on culinary medicine. She's a longtime member of

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the United States Personal Chef Association and a member of

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the International Association of Culinary Professionals. She has now owned

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seven culinary businesses, including a catering company, personal chef business, restaurants,

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and food product companies. And I could go on and

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on because it's such an incredible journey that you had,

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But with all that being said, I'd rather bring Chef

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dev in. So welcome to Word of Mom Radio.

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Thank you, Dory, glad to be here.

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Oh it's my pleasure. I would love for you to

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take us on your journey that led you to doing

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what you're doing. And then how your son kind of

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shifted your focus.

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So gosh, over thirty years ago, when I started out

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in physical therapy, I loved it because it was a

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different way to people. I really noticed that my professional

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athletes would have such a better outcome when I would

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talk to them some about what they were eating, their

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training schedules, different things like that. I kind of started

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putting two and two together and I thought, this is

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very interesting that rehabit healing is a direct correlation to food.

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Well about that time, my son was three and he

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was diagnosed with high functioning autism severe DHD. The doctors

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all said, listen, put him in some tip a special school.

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It's probably really not going to have a lot of friends,

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won't probably ever really learn to tie his own shoes

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and walk in a straight line. And you know, here's

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a bunch of medication. And I thought, I just can't.

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I can't wrap my head around this. How do you

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know He's three and we all we know something is

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going on. So a good friend of mine was a

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functional nutritionist, and she said, how does his body use food?

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And I'm like, uh rondo, I don't know, like I

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need to fix this, and she said, you have nothing

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to lose. So she ran food intolerance testing on him.

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We looked for heavy metals, we did, I mean, all

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kinds of things. Come to find out, this child was

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full of heavy metals, He had food intolerances. He had

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to clean up his gut like it, just pick it.

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Kid at this point is four, and I said, okay, fine,

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we will, we'll figure this out. Let's just I've done everything.

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Let's just change his food. See what happens a different

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child in three months, different child. And I thought all

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we did was change his food, Like how is this possible?

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And I mean eye contact and behavior changes got bad

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like everything, And I thought, hmm, maybe there's something to this.

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So I thought, you know what, I wonder if I

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could make a business out of this. There's gotta be

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more than just him. But went to culinary school. In

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culinary school, since we're talking to females, I could talk

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very openly. Went to culinary school and they're like, okay,

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So when you work for a man at his restaurant,

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when you're standing on his line, I thought, this is

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not for me. This is not going to work out

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for me, I know for a fact, Okay, well we'll

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finish this up. So I thought, okay, we've got to

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figure out this concept of how do we get special

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dietary needs to people but customized to them? And I thought,

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so I was working out one day and read back

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of Cooking Light magazine about the Culinary Business Institute, and

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I thought, what teaching people to be personal chefs? Okay,

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so when they're and they're like, okay, so when you

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cook for one client at a time in their home,

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one client a day, I thought, how is this going

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to scale?

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Like what?

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There's got to be a different in a better way.

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So the concept I came up with is more like

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a private chef service at scale, delivered from a commercial kitchen.

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Came up with this concept now twenty three years ago,

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savers twenty three years old, and one mom told, one

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mom told another mom told. Then I needed a restaurant

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for the kitchen, and then I bought a restaurant, and

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then I developed another restaurant, and then we decided to

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do catering and all these things. To this day, Saver

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is known for being a culinary medicine lifestyle company. Whole

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Food organic nutrition, specialize and individualized down to the individual client,

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delivered to the fridge without contracts or memberships, and we

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charge a chefy plus groceries, so food cost is not

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that big of a deal to us. That has been

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such a huge game changer because about ten years ago

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other chefs started to come along and say how exactly

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did you do that? Like could you teach me? So

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I turned my processes into a culinary business coaching and

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consulting company which is Chef Deb and Chef Deb works

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with established culinary business owners, not just a personal chef field.

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We have restaurants, we have catering companies, we have food

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product people. But Saver celebrating twenty three years and we

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do highly customized personal chef services, unique catering based upon

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very much an experience, and we do a lot now

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of the in flight private flight catering. So I run

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both companies, but I don't work in either company, so

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I have both companies are completely team led. My son

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today is twenty six years old. He's in the military,

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married two little girls, and he's been deployed twice. Currently

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he's at the National Training Center out in California, but

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he can more than tie his own shoe and walk

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in a straight line. That's for sure.

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Doctors sometimes really really just get to me on such

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a visceral level because they really never see the individual

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so often and give you this blanket diagnosis. My Wilson

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was borderline add and they wanted me to put him

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on riddling like that, and I said, you know what,

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I will look at his diet. I will modify things,

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and then it's up to you as a teacher, because no,

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I'm not putting my kid on medication because that is

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not the answer. And I don't think people realize shef

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dev the correlation of food, what they are eating and

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the medical issues they have. Right, Aunt kept getting gout

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and they could not figure out why. And then I

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looked into black tea because the only thing I could

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think of is that she loved She would make the

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liftin iced tea and that's what she drank all day long.

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Black tea and gout are are huge. The doctors never

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ever looked at it. They could never figure out. They

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just kept giving her medication. And you know what, she

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stopped drinking black tea. Never had a goall episode. Again.

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That was people don't realize it They really don't, and

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they don't realize how important it is to find those

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food sensitivities because of the triggers. Look at your son,

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you as a mom just going oo and then having

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somebody in the field to say, wait a minute, why

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don't we give this Why I love the show because

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you know how many moms are going to hear this

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and go, wait a minute, Wait a minute, what if

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I look at my kid's diet? What am I doing

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for you in building these businesses and then raising a

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child that they were telling you was going to be

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such special needs?

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Right?

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How did you find that? You know, we always joke

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about the work life balance. How did do the work

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life juggling act keeping all those balls in the air.

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First of all, I have a unpopular philosophy that once

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you hear it, you're probably going to agree with it,

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And I think work life balance is crap. The reason why,

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it's all your life. Your business is your life, Your

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children are your life, your families your life. It is

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all your life. All of it is your life. So

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the common mistake that people make is they and I

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see it all the time with my coaching clients, is

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they build a business to support a life that they

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haven't built yet. So they're so busy running a business

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they never create a life. So one of the first

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things that I did as I sat down and I said,

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what kind of life do I want? And I do

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this with my coaching clients. What kind of life do

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I want to this day? Just like when I started

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twenty three years ago, I ran my companies and I

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do it to this day between nine to three, and

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I don't work on Fridays. I used to work on Fridays,

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but I have always run my companies during school hours always.

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And if I started to have so much business that

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I couldn't do that, then that's when my first hire came.

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Then that's when my second hire came. But I picked

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my children up and I took them to school until

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I didn't need to anymore until they started driving. But

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I still kept those same hours. And even today, I

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work nine to three Monday through Thursday, and I don't

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work on Fridays or Saturdays or Sundays. So I chose

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to build my life first set. And that's what a

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lot of women, well business owners as a whole, don't do.

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They forget that their business has office hours like I

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could probably pick up the phone, pick somebody that's listening

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right now and say thank you for calling so and so.

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We're open from whatever. We're open for. What entrepreneurs don't

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do is they don't set their own work hours, personal

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office hours, because what that does is this allows you

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to work your butt off during those hours, and then

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there's no entrepreneurial guilt. When three o'clock hit, I'm like, okay,

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well I didn't get it done. So these are my

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office hours. It's a choice to work more. But as entrepreneurs,

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we constantly have guilt that we're not constantly working on

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our business. Having your own office hours, designing your life

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first means that guilt is not there. That is what

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I say about work life balance. You got to create

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it if you want it, but you have to start

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with the right thing, and it's not the work, it's

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your life.

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On that note, I really want you to think what

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Chef Depp has just said, because it is really true

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that as entrepreneurs, setting those times matter. So we're going

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to take a quick break, say thank you to our sponsors,

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And we're back here on Word of Mom Radio. We

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are talking with ship Dev and I really seriously love

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what you said because, again, like I said, the work life.

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Every time somebody says work life balance. It's a work

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life juggling act. But you're right, it is about building

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it your life. I was a single mom. I've been

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a mom for North since nineteen ninety four. Wow. Yeah,

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and worked it my life around my children. Yes that

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you know. At three o'clock when they walked in the door,

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my business closed. It was time to bake cookies, it

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was time to go to the park. It is time

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to go to baseball practice or soctware practice, whatever life

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that they had. If something couldn't wait after everyone went

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to bed, I might take an hour. Sure, most of

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the time, I I got up in the morning, I

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have my morning cup of tea and sit look at stuff.

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But then when my kids woke up until that was

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my time and all the work got done. Yes, face

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it as entrepreneurs. If we're not enjoying what we're doing,

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of course, point we thank you. That's a thousand percent.

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Go get a job, you know. So what do you

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want to say to that female business owner out there

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that's ready to shift from being that doer somewhere to

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being a leader on their own. What do you have

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to say? Shift down?

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So this is actually going to surprise you, and what

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I'm going to say to that is is what I'm

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supposed to say to you, versus reality or two totally

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different things. The reality of it is you have to

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believe in yourself enough that you're worthy enough in the

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first place to shift from here to here. Most people

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stay here with all the excuses in the world and

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don't even realize that they're self sabotaging because when they

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go here. And I see it all the time, whenever

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I say, let's created first well branded, big girl website

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that you pay a web designer for, all of a sudden,

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I see this, like wait, wait, wait, where are you going?

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And they're like, but that makes me real? I'm like, yes,

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it makes you real. So one of the biggest mistakes

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I see entrepreneurs make is not having a healthy relationship

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with fear. And it could be fear of spending money

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you don't have, because I promise as an entrepreneur you're

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gonna spend it at some point even if you don't

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have it. It's the chicken or the egg. Well, if

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I just get more clients, then I'd have more money

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to do X. That doesn't work out either. Well if

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I just had more time, Well if I just what

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if I get too big, what if I get too successful,

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What if I put it out there, no one buys it. Fear,

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there's so much fear around everything. So as far as

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taking the leap, I usually tell my clients and I

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tell people, when you get sick enough of it, whatever

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it is, you'll take sleep. But the problem is is

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by the time you get sick enough of it, you

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don't have a long enough bandwidth or a runway to

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do it well. You're just doing it to throw spaghetti

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against the wall to get it done. So what I

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would say to you is you have to have a

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healthy relationship with fear, and you have to get really

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comfortable with being constantly uncomfortable. Because there's many moms that

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are sitting here listening right now that know that they

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should have done something a year ago, two years ago,

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three years ago, and it's all the excuses in the

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world why. But I will tell you this, Eventually, if

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you don't do it, somebody else will. And eventually, if

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you don't do it, your hand is going to be

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forced that you either have to make a really big

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decision at the worst possible time to go ahead and

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do it anyway. So that's what I have to say

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about growth.

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I love that I have to ask, because you have

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created such success, how did you manage this in that

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male dominated industry where they were telling you about the

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guy in the kitchen that you'd be working for. How

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did you turn those tables?

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Can I use? Can? I?

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Can?

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I use a bad word? Sure?

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Okay?

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So I had to get really comfortable with being called

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a bitch because apparently if you're successful female in culinary

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you're a bitch. Like you just are. That's that's just

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the way that it is. You're a bitch because since

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it's so male dominated, there's a lot of egos and

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there's a lot of control. So it's easier to disparage

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me than it is to ever congratulate me on building

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something that no one's been able to build. My company

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is very unique. I don't have competition in this area.

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But it's also why I teach other people to do

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what I do. I was told I wasn't a real

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chef because I didn't have a restaurant. Well I had three.

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That's not a profitable model. So how did I do it?

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I kept going. I kept going, no matter the theft,

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no matter what they wrote about me. No matter what

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they said about me, no matter what the hearsay was,

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no matter what was popped up, whatever popped up on Facebook,

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it didn't matter to me. I kept going because honestly,

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I knew that I was making more money than all

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of them put together with my concept. And they knew

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it too, Because to this day, if you come to

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work for me, I will pay you more than you've

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ever made before, and I'll make sure you're home with

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your family at night. But I'll also fire you real

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quick too.

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I have to say I was forty three when somebody

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told me what a bitch I was, and I looked

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at them and I said, wow, right, you say that

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like it's an insult. I've worked forty three years for

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this because trust me, if I was a guy, the

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team leader, i'd ben go get her. I'd be who

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you want leading your everything going on. But because I'm

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a woman, I'm a bitch. I'm this, I'm that. So

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bring it on, boys, So yes, you love it. You

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know what, Seriously, it's an amazing thing that it's twenty

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twenty five and we're still fighting those same battles. So

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somebody calls you a bitch, sweetheart, be proud of it,

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badge of honor because exactly guess who called me during

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COVID and asked.

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Me how to do my concept? Because did this my

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company tripled its net in COVID. So I guess they

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all called me. They all called me. How are you doing?

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What you're doing? Said, h, it's interesting you're calling me.

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Let's reexamine a conversation we had.

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Guess your bitchiness paid off? If so so Savory Culinary Services,

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you have two sites, so what because both links are

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going to be Yeah, what are people going to get

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when they go to each one?

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So when you go to Saber Culinary Services, that is

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my culinary medicine company that we customize our clients' meals

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to their lifestyle and to the individual, you'll find catering there.

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You'll find also private flight catering. So listen, moms, if

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you have a private jet, you know you can let

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us know, especially when you come into the DFW, and

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we're so happy to make sure that you have amazing

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catering on board that jet. So that is all about food.

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My chefdev dot com website is all about working with

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to scale established culinary businesses. On that particular website. You'll

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see different coaching programs, you'll see different resources, you'll see

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really everything that you need if you are out there

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and you have a culinary business and you're struggling with it.

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We have an upcoming workshop called Sharpen. This is our

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tenth here. It's here in Fort Worth, Texas, and it

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is specifically for established culinary business owners and the whole

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concept and I keep it small to about fifty culinary

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business owners so that you have an opportunity to work together.

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It is all about the future of culinary only using AI,

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but future casting, manifesting. And by the time you're done,

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you walk out of there with your unique plan for

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twenty twenty six that is already executed. You walk out

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of there like that. Plus I feed you it's pretty

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fun too. So that's coming in January. But if you

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go to the website and you're a culinary entrepreneur interested

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in that, just go to chefdev dot com and you'll

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see that workshop there.

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So, what are your favorite comfort Foods's? Chefdown potatoes.

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You can feed me potatoes of any shape form, fashion

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and I that is my favorite comfort food and believe

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it or not, curry, I love love love curries. Those

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are comfort foods to me. I'm not a sweet girl,

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could care less about sugar. But yeah, that's the best

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way I can answer that question.

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Pasta a zool was out being a town my kids.

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Whenever anybody was sick. My mom made pastave a zool.

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My grandmother made pastave a zool. I made possible. As

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my kids grew up and moved out of the house,

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I get that phone called mom, I'm not feeling good.

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Can you walk me through post of a zool. It's like, yeah, sure,

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you know. And it was just and it's so funny

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because they're always like, why does it make me feel better?

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Coump for food, full of love?

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For my kids, that's fit of insane. Yeah, for my kids,

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I think it would be a beef stew that I make.

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My husband makes really great chicken noodle soup using bone broth,

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So it's a that's very healing too.

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It's an amazing thing. So as we are wrapping up

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chef down, what would you like to leave our listeners with?

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And again, how may maybe chat to me?

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So this is something that I told my daughter the

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other day because she is looking to make a transition

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She's a corporate executive at Dale. One of the things

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that she said to me is, how do I know

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what I'm supposed to be doing next? Because I know

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that I want to go into a leadership role. She

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just graduated with her MBA and she loves to lead teams.

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She said, I have an opportunity to apply for this

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job or this job. This job's bigger than me. I

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have to grow into it like it's scary. I don't

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think they'll hire me versus this one that I'm already doing.

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She feels, how do I decide? That's what I tell

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my business owners, and this is what I tell my kids.

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You always make decisions based upon where you're going and

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not where you are now, So we know which position

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she chose, the one that really stretched her and made

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her uncomfortable.

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You know what I say it all the time, life

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begins way out of your comfort zone. You know your

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comfort zone should be a dot somewhere. Yep, yeah, I

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love that. So how can people reach out to you?

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Chefdal So we are all over on social media, from

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Instagram to Facebook, to LinkedIn, to save culinary services to

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chef dev coaching to you can even look up my

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name dev Oxman. You can go to either website fill

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out a contact request form again chefdeb dot com. Our

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emails are on that site as well. Or you can

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go to Savor Culinary Services with an s dot com

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and again you can fill out a contact request and

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find us there as well. So lots of ways to

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reach out.

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To us, and there'll be links to your books on

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Amazon as well. Yes, talk about your books. Maybe another time.

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I have to bring you back to our author's ali.

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I love some of those, love reading and love reading

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about you know, foodie. I'm Italian. I mean, it's it's

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something that my whole life. It's let's face it, as people.

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When you love to cook, you are sharing love, you

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are sharing it. There is so much that goes into

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what you prepare for people.

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Somebody so only the other day that my love language

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is feeding people.

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They were right. It's absolutely true. It really is. So

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to all those moms out there cooking away, throw that

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love in there, you know, I mean it really it

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is how we share who we are and what we

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do with our family, our friends, the people that matter

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to us. So, Chef Deb, thank you so much for

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taking the time to join us. Today on Word of

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Mom Radio, I love your story.

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Absolutely and for all of you tuning in, thanks so

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much for being here. We're going to close out with

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our fabulous theme song from Smith's Sisters and the Sunday Drivers.

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So till next time, This is Dori di Carlo saying,

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go out and create a marvelous you. Bye for now.

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She is sure, she is sure, she is strong, straw,

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she is true, she is true, she is praise, pray,

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she is you, pase she is she is sure, she

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is she is strong, is strong, she is true, is true,

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she is brave, she is bold, she she is you,

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she is she sure of herself. Yes, she takes care

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of his powerful and strong. Yes, she knows who she is,

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has integrity, woman, strong and true. You know her by name.

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See this woman is you. She is sure, she is

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value and hope has proved to be brave. See it's

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never too late, never time to behave. Reaching for meams

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doesn't matter. The age believes in herself, unleash from her cage.

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is true, is true, she is brave, is brave, she

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is she is you,
Deb Oxman Profile Photo

Chef, Founder, CEO, and Lead Coach at Chef Deb Coaching and Savor Culinary

Serial Culinary Female Business Entrepreneur
Founder, CEO, and Lead Coach at Chef Deb Coaching and Savor Culinary, Deb Oxman.

Chef Deb is a successful culinary business entrepreneur, a #1 Amazon bestselling author, a sought-after speaker and the founder, CEO, and lead coach at Chef Deb Coaching.

As a serial culinary business owner for more than 20 years, she has won Chef of the Year (USPCA), Marketer of the Year (USPCA), Website of the Year (USPCA), Best Catering Company (Fort Worth Magazine), participated in major charitable events as a celebrity chef and has been featured in media outlets that include ABC, NBC, CBS, Indulge Magazine, Entrepreneurial Chef, and more.

A licensed physical therapist early in her career, Deb was inspired to switch industries after her son was diagnosed with numerous health problems at age 2 that she found were improved (and triggered) by his diet.

Chef Deb trained at the Culinary Institute of America, the Culinary Business Academy and the Culinary School of Fort Worth and started a personal chef business focused on culinary medicine. She is a long-time member of the USPCA (United States Personal Chef Association) and is a member of IACP (International Association of Culinary Professionals). She has now owned 7 culinary businesses, including a catering company, personal chef businesses, restaurants, and food product companies.

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Here is the Chef Deb website: https://chefdeb.com/

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